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His original post , titled I can't sleep, is some brilliant writing. When we talk about the chilling effect that criticism of Israel creates in industries everywhere (including ours) this is what that looks like.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 103 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Paul, you are clearly a man who would have refused to take part, even when those you held dear cast aside their humanity. Keep the fight up, your people are out there making the same sacrifices in their life.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not him, just someone sharing his story.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

I am also not Paul

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 99 points 2 years ago

Not supporting the Nazis had financial impact on people. Some American compagnies in fact gladly did business with the Nazis and made bank from it . But after a while they still managed to scrape some morals from the bottom of the barrel and say "hey this Genocide thing is maybe not okay".

Paul can stand proud for standing up for his morals. Sadly seems like many western companies and even the entirety US congress loves to sell their souls for genocidal Nazi stuff these days. Modern day America would have been a dream come true for Hitler.

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 91 points 2 years ago

Paul is a chad. He also got kicked out of ycombinator for outing the founders skipping vaccine lines and encouraging others to do the same.

[–] sab@kbin.social 78 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Does someone know if anyone maintains a list of companies or organizations where this kind of bullshit has gone down, with link to sources? Could be useful to keep track.

I can't believe how quickly we went from pretending we thought murdering civilians was a bad thing to concluding it's merely a matter of killing the right civilians.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's a conversation going on in that Mastodon thread where one dude is proposing a static site fueled by a fact-checked list, but that's the only thing I've seen other than BDS.

[–] sab@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Shit, I'm on the phone over the holidays, will keep an eye on this. Thanks!

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I will preface this by saying that there are risks to being openly involved.


There are people work to avoid taking actions that may benefit Israel:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott,_Divestment_and_Sanctions

https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott

[–] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Definitely doesn't help that most of the damn US has some form of Anti-BDS laws. Because everybody knows Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism right guys?

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 9 points 2 years ago

The US ""free market"" - Where if you choose not to do business with somebody they make it illegal not to.

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[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's extremely rare to see someone like Paul Bigger whose morals are not for sale

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[–] digdilem@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When there is a war, there are war crimes - it's not surprising, it's not new and it's not special. Every single time, regardless of nationality, race, creed, invader or defender. Every single time. You give a lot of people guns, teach them to de-humanise the enemy and then put them through unimaginable stresses, it's inevitable that some will do bad things. Those who orchestrate such actions and trigger events like this know, accept and want these atrocoties to achieve their own ends.

I respect Paul Biggar for having an opinion and writing a well researched and unimpeachable personal blog about it. Why should any of us who hold feelings have to suppress them?

It's sad that he's become yet another victim of this unwinnable war, it's even sadder that he won't be the last.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

This is today's reality on the Internet. We used to think it would free us from capitalist control of public discourse. Hahahaha no, anyone saying anything contentious without good anonymity can be fired from their job or face other consequences.

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Actions have consequences, and that's ok.

That is, sincerely, such a hugely refreshing statement in any current affair. I don't mean to distract from his more specific points, but that key insight really shows integrity in a way that I wish didn't seem so rare.

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What is the insight from your perspective?

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Most people who find themselves fired for their viewpoints decry "cancel culture". To be clear, booting him of the board was an act of censorship. This acceptance of (the existence of) consequences helps to indicate how strongly one holds to their values.

He addresses related notions in his essay. Why he chose to accept the consequences in advance and why some others may not be able to. It makes it real.

[–] wantd2B1ofthestrokes@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly have no idea why Circle CI would feel the need to do this. Is there really that much external pressure from ???somewhere??? to suppress anti-Israel commentary?

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[–] BiggestBulb@kbin.social 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Between the recent breach and the clear sentiment behind their staff, I really don't know why anyone chooses CircleCI over GitHub / GitLab Actions.

[–] Deckweiss@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Not free but definitely wonderful

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

My friend used to drive me nuts because he kept getting ads about them so he parrot the ads bullshit at me just to grind my gears.

Like CI/CD is a space full of eatabled and power opensource options, why am I paying for a proprietary app.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago

It is sickening the double standards we have. And all because of money and powerful lobbies.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Such a powerful article! Standing up for what's right, I would always invest in such a person if I had any say in it.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He should probably leave the US and go to Europe (where his Irish passport entitles him to work). He’s certainly not going to work at a Fortune 500 company any time soon, and any firm that hires him is likely to find itself reciprocally blacklisted.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 40 points 2 years ago

Ireland is generally supportive of Palestinian freedom, given their history. This extends back well before the recent horrific Hamas terrorist attacks. Israel and Ireland have a rocky relationship, including Israel using fake irish passports for agents. Ireland is not antisemitic, but Israel obviously tries to paint them that way.

[–] FrostKing@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Genuine question: What's this have to do with open source?

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago

Don't give CircleCI my money, got it

[–] unrelatedkeg@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What I don't understand is him getting sacked. While he did name a few people and cut ties, I don't see the people named couldn't stand up with him after being named. It seems as if they really support the war crimes in Gaza.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

In his blog post he explicitly said two things:

  • He can’t concentrate on work while this is going on
  • He actively refuses to work with a certain set of investors (conceivably the ones backning CircleCI)

That doesn’t leave much room for others to work with him

[–] rutrum@lm.paradisus.day 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't mean to undermine anything when I ask this. The article was very good, thank you sharing. I wanted to ask if circleCI made any floss software, or if paul biggar was a contributor to particular open source projects.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 years ago

I don't know. I posted it here because CicleCI is a popular tool for Open source projects.

[–] thecookingsenpai@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago

What an article. I have no words, but that's always the case when thinking about Gaza

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