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Everything about Lemmy; bugs, gripes, praises, and advocacy.

For discussion about the lemmy.ml instance, go to !meta@lemmy.ml.

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by nutomic@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
 

We are happy to see that many of you are exploring Lemmy after Reddit announced changes to its API policy. I maintain this project alongside @dessalines@lemmy.ml.

Lemmy is similar to Reddit in many ways, but there is also a major difference: Its not only a single website, but consists of many different websites which are interconnected through federation. This is achieved with the ActivityPub protocol which is also used by Mastodon. It means that you can sign up on any Lemmy instance to interact with users and communities on other instances. The project website has a list of instances which all have their own rules and administrators. We recommend that you sign up on one of them, to avoid overt centralization on lemmy.ml.

Another difference compared to Reddit is that Lemmy is open source, and not funded by any company. For this reason it relies on volunteer work to make the project better, whether it's programming, design, documentation, translating, reporting issues or others. See the contributing guide to get started. You can also donate to support development.

We also recommend that you read the documentation. It explains how Lemmy works and how to setup your own Lemmy instance. Running an instance gives you full control over the rules and moderation, and prevents us developers from having any influence. Especially large communities that want to use Lemmy should host their own instance, because existing Lemmy instances would easily be overwhelmed by a large number of new users.

Enjoy your time here! If you have any questions, feel free to ask below or in the Matrix chat.

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[–] FaceDeer@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not so much a question, as a couple of comments. One is of course a hearty thank you to the devs who've put so much work into creating something like this. Long ago I was an avid Usenetter, and while Reddit replicates a lot of the feel of Usenet its underlying structure is tragically centralized and closed. Lemmy feels a lot more like the Usenet of old and I would be very happy seeing it take off.

The other is: you've got a month left to iron out as many kinks as possible. :) The real flood isn't going to start until Reddit actually shuts off those APIs, because humans are lazy and I bet most just clicked through the announcement their third-party app gave them and figured they'd worry about it later. I've seen threads on Reddit where there was a lot of odd negativity about Lemmy and a lot of it seemed to come down to a confusing interface or stylistic complaints, those seem like things that can be addressed in a hurry and might be worth focusing on. I'm brand new here myself so I'll see if I can spot some to comment about more specifically in the future, but I'm sure you've got a backlog with that sort of thing in it anyway.

And if Reddit ultimately bans NSFW content, as they keep seeming to be edging towards, the flood will become a deluge. But that will likely be a separate phase of their enshittification process than the API thing, so who knows when that will be.

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[–] JetpackJackson@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the welcome! This place seems really cool and I really like it here so far, I hope I can contribute some way in the future.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I joined because of the reddit changes. I'm not going to PAY for a service that should be free, especially when you consider that they're already making a bucket load from users as it is. I foresee reddit dying very soon. No one is going to pay for an API. Well not many, anyways.

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[–] bahcodad@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I've just moved here from reddit. I've read the documentation introduction but I'm also an idiot.

Could someone please explain how this works in super simple terms? Sort of eli5

[–] Barbarian@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm a newbie as well, so take this with a grain of salt.

Lemmy is a language. Different "reddits" (called instances from this point on) can talk to any other instance that the moderation team hasn't banned. Every instance has their own rules, settings and moderation teams. Every instance can make "subreddits" (sublemmies). You can contribute to any sublemmy on any instance as long as they haven't banned your instance or your user.

What this means in practice is that if you don't like the moderators, go make your own instance or find one with like-minded people. If the moderators of an instance are not happy with the contributions of another instance as a whole, they can ban that. Assuming they're talking to (federated with) another instance, it's seamless and you can comment and post with all those people too.

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[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@nutomic@lemmy.ml would you be able to provide any general guidance for potential community/sub-reddit/sub-lemmy creators or admins on the trade-offs involved in starting a new community (on an existing instance) vs starting a new instance?

I figure for those new to free and federated social, the case for starting an instance might not be clear, and could, provided technical abilities are available, be an attractive and useful option for some.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Creating a community on an existing instance is less effort. However it means that the instance admins have full control over your community, and you have to follow their rules. There is also no way to automatically migrate a community to another instance. Having your own instance gives you full control over the rules/moderation, and also lets you apply custom themes or change instance configuration (eg signup mode).

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[–] ArkoSammy12@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Just recently made an account with kbin.social. It's crazy how all of this works right? But yeah, I'm really looking forward to this new style of doing social media. Can't wait to see how this evolves.

[–] anji@lemmy.anji.nl 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is the way. As a bit of a Reddit-addict I hope Lemmy (and perhaps other interoperable projects one day?) will take off. Centralized social media sites appear to be doomed to inevitable self-destruction. Protocols can survive.

Like Mastodon and other ActivityPub applications however, it is the Federated nature which IMO still needs some work. Not being able to easily browse remote communities, posts, scores, comments, etc. from the comfort of my home instance (which will also be the only portal to the federated world visible to mobile applications) is a problem. On Mastodon I often don't see all replies, and likewise on Lemmy I don't see any comments to this post yet.

I hope ActivityPub apps figure out a way to better synchronize remote and local state so users won't keep seeing incomplete/fragmented views of Fedi content.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Someone did create this Lemmy community browser, which searches all known instances for any community. It might be useful to integrate that into lemmy, or at least link to it, in some way, to help people discover communities not on their own instance already.

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[–] sorrowstouch@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks for the welcome! I look forward to seeing this website grow into the thing Reddit should have been!

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[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Imo lemmy seems to have more features than Reddit also, like editing post titles, having text alongside an image post, using third party apps (which will stop soon with Reddit) etc. Reddit is very slow to add updates that make sense, but lemmy moves fast and is a great piece of software.

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[–] creek@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the warm welcome. This is my first time exploring anything fediverse related, and I'm still trying to wrap my head around how all this works. All I know is that I'm really dissatisfied with the decision making that is going on at Reddit, and if there comes a day where I can no longer use my beloved Apollo to access their service, that will most likely be where I officially dip out.

[–] understandable@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Looking quite promising so far. I really hope this takes off.

And thanks for admitting my account!

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[–] davidgro@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I just wasted a ton of time trying to create an account here and it not working before realizing that I already made one nearly 3 years ago. Fun times. At least I'm here now. I'm also really scared/frustrated with the direction Reddit is going.

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[–] RoundSparrow@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It would seem nice to have an instance of Lemmy that focus on TV shows, films, music, bands, comics, etc

I'm watching the SIlo TV series currently (new episode today), etc.

Anyone working on this?

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[–] lemming@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Welcome everyone ;)

[–] Maxcactus@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Wherever you go, there you are.

[–] privacyphreak@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Happy to see a federated version of what Reddit should be. Keep up the good work!

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Hii! Guess what this is my first comment! I'm sure we'll look back to this comment one day.

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