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[–] DauntingFlamingo@lemmy.ml 111 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

What's the historical reason it wasn't included in one of the other states?

When Texas sought to enter the Union in 1845 as a slave state, federal law in the United States, based on the Missouri Compromise, prohibited slavery north of 36°30' parallel north. Under the Compromise of 1850, Texas surrendered its lands north of 36°30' latitude.

[–] kbotc@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago
[–] BadWoof@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It has a lot to do with the US using Oklahoma as a dumping zone for first Americans and then over time taking even that from them piece by piece.

If your interested, Jonny Harris did a piece on it recently.

The Native American State That Never Was

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[–] Daklon@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago
[–] SparkleWagon@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Meth and cousins is what gets done in those there parts.

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I mean you could have said that about the rest of the visible map there as well

[–] SparkleWagon@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Excuse me, but I happen to live in Oklahoma City and I really don't appreciate how accurate you're being right now...

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My bad, if it’s any consolation I live in Idaho

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Ah, the state named by the bitter ex of a girl named Ida!

[–] odium@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago

Dallas and maybe Wichita are fine, but for everywhere else, I agree

[–] niktemadur@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Meth and cousins is what gets the job done in those there parts.

[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Also dust bowls.

[–] Vitaly_Chernobyl@sopuli.xyz 40 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Oklahoman here! I’ve personally haven’t spent much time in this part of the state. It’s was historically referred to as “No Man’s Land” if that gives you any idea. The panhandle has a much more arid, high plains type climate than other parts of the state. I believe there are literal sand dunes out that way. Oklahoma’s highest point, Black Mesa, is in the panhandle. Im told Black Mesa is a great camping spot for star-gazing, but I’ve never been. As far as I’m aware it’s mostly right-wing but jobs living in that area. I seem to recall a few local news stories about people in that part of the state making a big stink about trans kids trying to use the bathroom and so forth.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Lol “right-wing butt jobs”

[–] ReCursing@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Black Mesa is where Halflife is set, if that helps?

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Black Mesa is the organization, IIRC. I had it in my head that the research facility was near Los Alamos, NM, but that might just be because I associate any theoretical physics research in a desert with Los Alamos.

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As far as I’m aware it’s mostly right-wing (nut) jobs living in that area.

This is different from the rest of Oklahoma how?

[–] Vitaly_Chernobyl@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

Well, not really. Oklahoma is a deeply red state, but it is more liberal in areas like Oklahoma City, Tulsa, and the university towns. I've always gotten the impression that people living in the panhandle were a different breed of conservative psycho though.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Like all states, there is a gradient of political leanings, especially around cities. For instance, northern Virginia is nothing like the rest of Virginia at all. I imagine it's similar in Oklahoma, where the major population centers don't reflect the rest of the state at all.

[–] lhx@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

Former Texan here: slavery is why that exists. They ceded the land so they could enter the union as a slave state.

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Weddings where everyone sits on the same side of the church and some of the worst maintained roads in America.

[–] rephlekt2718@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

lol never heard that expression before, brilliant

[–] MarigoldPuppyFlavors@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't think I've ever been to a wedding in a church. Are the families supposed to split up?

[–] SparkleWagon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Usually it's split by the friends and family of the bride on one side and groom on the other.

[–] niktemadur@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then the terrible roads must somehow be the fault of "those libruls', when there's not a liberal in sight as far as the crow flies for a couple of days at least.

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Trump sign, flag, or bulletin board per square mile is unreal. I've driven through there a few times and I legit don't feel safe.

[–] niktemadur@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They are incapable of understanding that it is the lack of progressive policies that keep their region a neglected backwater.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

There are way too many big words in that sentence for them to have any hope of understanding. You've got to use little words and one concept at a time.

[–] iamdanno@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

They are not upset that it is neglected. They'd rather they were left alone to do their thing. They feel like they are being attacked, because everyone else is trying to drag them into the 21st century.

[–] hactar42@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

After driving around south east Oklahoma this weekend, it scares me to know that there are worse roads in the state.

[–] colforge@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Can confirm our roads suck. Source: Live in Choctaw County.

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago
[–] TempleSquare@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

TIL you can cross between the border of Oklahoma and Colorado, technically...

[–] laivindil@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

The Oklahoma high point is right near the border so you can see each state, the marker for the border is like a two minute drive from the parking lot for the highpoint trailhead.

[–] Onionizer@geddit.social 3 points 2 years ago

You can go north from Texas to New Mexico

[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

It's pretty much the heart of where the dust bowl of the 1930s was. Most of the people who lived there left and never came back. They moved to places like Bakersfield, California, which is a big part of how you get the "Bakersfield Sound" in country music with guys like Buck Owens and Merle Haggard.

[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ok, but there are also probably hookers in other parts.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

But are they OK?

[–] Stan@lemmywinks.com 2 points 2 years ago

If she’s the only hooker in the state, she’s probably not OK.

[–] recently_coco@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wind, sand, dirt, and poverty

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Original band name of Earth, Wind & Fire

[–] zelifcam@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

That’s where people drive when they want to avoid Texas’ draconian laws. Think of it as a neutral zone.

[–] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

How many sisters you got?

[–] Monologue@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

makes it easier to flip pancakes

[–] Kcg@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Panhandle behaviour!

[–] ebits21@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Panhandling

[–] Trebuchet@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Panhandle behaviour.

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Nothing goes on there.

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