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Don’t You Know Who I Am?

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[–] 6mementomori@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (6 children)

that is just sad. yet so many will say sexism does not exist

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Pretty sure racism is also involved

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Intersectionality

[–] tquid@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (8 children)

It's as if, like, if you are a woman, and also in a disfavoured racial category, like, where they, uh, have overlap? Where they meet? It's not the same as either one individually but its own, I guess nexus? I feel like there's a better word for this

[–] Mercival@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There's a somewhat niche, but clever word for this particular combo - misogynoir

Coined by Moya Bailey in 2010

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[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The funny thing is that in my experience female programmers usually have above average skills. I suspect it’s exactly because of this bias against women in tech. Where an average or below average dude can easily get by, this is much harder for women. As a result this bias acts as a kind of filter which results in female programmers being on average a little better than male programmers because all the average or below average ones get filtered out early.

[–] Jonna@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here's hard data to match your experience:

"This paper presents the largest study to date on gender bias, where we compare acceptance rates of contributions from men versus women in an open source software community. Surprisingly, our results show that women's contributions tend to be accepted more often than men's. However, women's acceptance rates are higher only when they are not identifiable as women. Our results suggest that although women on GitHub may be more competent overall, bias against them exists nonetheless."

https://peerj.com/preprints/1733/

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is also common in the guitar community. Some women can shred like mofos, and here comes Jim-Bob McGraw saying their playing is tracked etc., ad nauseum

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[–] HeavenAndHell@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Claims to be able to program in C++, Java

"Pfft yeah probably only in Hello World"

No that's Elon Musk. He's full of shit. This Victoria Secret model can actually do something.

[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Nah Elon is not that useless, he knows how to change twitter's icon

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

And lose lawsuits

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[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was so glad we had a woman join our dev team some months ago. It's more fun, more relaxed and we are able to get better results as we just cover a wider area of skills. People gatekeeping programming to include only men are idiots.

[–] girltwink@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (7 children)

That poor girl. My gf's only female teammate quit last month and i suggested she start grinding leetcode asap. Could you imagine being the only woman on a team? Pretty strong indicator that something is very wrong there.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 2 years ago

If we want to reach parity, there's gotta be some only woman at first.

It's the same thing with any kind of diversity. Not an expert, but anecdotally, it seems to work better if you start adding diversity at the top. At least people at the senior+ level are generally more comfortable being outliers.

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[–] Cubes@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Tbf, the original photo was already discounting her abilities. Saying "can program code" for a lead SWE is saying like "can do calculus" for a physicist.

[–] odium@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

In their defense, maybe the post was written by some journalist with no technical background at all and doesn't know the difference.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's annoying sometimes that people just assume that those who don't work in tech are completely clueless about tech.

It's also really funny to mess with people who assumes that.

[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

as someone who works in tech, the number of people who think they know about tech and are actually completely full of shit dramatically outweighs the people who don’t work in tech and do know what they’re talking about. it can take a lot of energy to differentiate the 2 groups

dunning krueger is at play a lot, because most people use a computer every day and think they know everything about the internet because they know what DNS stands for and typed a command to flush the DNS cache this one time and it worked

[–] BigNote@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

This mirrors the experience of anyone who has studied linguistics.

Because everyone speaks at least one language fluently, they tend to assume that they understand how languages work, while having zero awareness of the fact that people have spent generations studying language and communication at the PhD level and that almost nothing about what we reflexively intuit about language actually holds true.

And I say this as a purely amateur linguistics nerd who does not claim any real formal expertise in terms of academic credentials.

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[–] BrudderAaron@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

You know what. Good on her. Proud of her doing what she loves. You go girl!

[–] 2ez@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Some fragile male egos in this thread. Looking forward to your complaints about the Barbie movie. Sad and pathetic.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't know what you're talking about. For me the fragile egos are way down the thread, all massively downvoted. The absolute majority is supportive.

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[–] orphiebaby@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

This is some good shit. As a white American male, I say: fuck sexism and racism. You go, girl.

[–] MinusPi@pawb.social 3 points 2 years ago

A hello world in MIPS is impressive by itself.

[–] starman@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

can program code

Such a weird sentence

[–] ClarissaXDarjeeling@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I'd be impressed by anyone who could "Hello, world" in MIPS

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

Those guys are pathetic

[–] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

How the hell does she program in mips? I thought that was a unit of measurement

[–] Enasni@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

She a boss fr

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