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Alabama Chief Justice Tom Parker indicated on the show he was a proponent of the “Seven Mountains Mandate,” an explicitly theocratic doctrine at the heart of Christian nationalism.

Alabama Chief Justice Tom Parker, who wrote the concurring opinion in last week’s explosive Alabama Supreme Court ruling that frozen embryos have the same rights as living children, recently appeared on a show hosted by self-anointed “prophet” and QAnon conspiracy theorist.

Parker was the featured guest on “Someone You Should Know,” hosted by Johnny Enlow, a Christian nationalist influencer and devoted supporter of former President Donald Trump. Over the course of an 11-minute interview, Parker articulated a theocratic worldview at odds with a functioning, pluralistic society.

“God created government,” he told Enlow, adding that it’s “heartbreaking” that “we have let it go into the possession of others.”

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[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

He looks like the guy that gets bitten but tries to hide it in zombie movies.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hear me out.

  1. Buy a massive freezer.

  2. Adopt every single frozen embryo you can. There should be a bunch available in Alabama.

  3. Move to Alabama.

  4. Claim every single one for tax credit.

  5. Bankrupt the state government.

If that doesn't work, keep going.

  1. Register every fetus that's been frozen for at least 18 years to vote. They can't speak for themselves, so someone has to.

  2. Elect sane people to office.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When your freezer conks out and all of your “children” are dead, then you are now liable.

This is why people doing IVF are so terrified. They could be held liable if their embryos become non-viable.

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can also draw a straight line between "embryos are children" and "all embryos must be implanted."

[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly. They would probably force implant embryos into women, and then arrest them for murder if the embryo fails to take hold.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Can embryos inherit property? Could they be an end around on inheritance tax? The mobile children of the donors could be guardians of the inheriting embryo?

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just being extremely generous and assuming for the sake of argument that every crime that Trump has been proven to have committed was somehow a conspiratorial hit job perpetrated by some massive shadowy leftist cabal. I'll never understand how the "grab em by the pussy" guy is the Christian choice. How the guy who cultivated the image of ruthless businessman, and who fired people for the sake of entertainment is the Christian choice. The man who famously cited second Corinthians as "two Corinthians" to a room full of evangelical Christians is the Christian choice. How the guy who insults people so regularly and often that there is a whole wikipedia article dedicated to it is the Christian choice. And finally, how the Wharton grad, billionaire New York real estate tycoon somehow doesn't represent the "coastal elite" which is supposedly the enemy he is fighting against to restore "true Christian values".

[–] thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, I'll never understand how Christianity has become ingrained with right wing politics. Modern day conservative churches are at odds with everything that Christ taught and stood for.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Christianity as a governing body has pretty much always been oppressive and against anything progressive.

Then you take your puritans, who were so far off the horizon of extremities that even established Christian governments in Europe were all like, "dude, you guys are cray-cray," dump them on the shores of an entirely new continent populated by brown people who don't speak Jesus, sprinkle in a bunch of beer and guns, add some African slaves, and you've got the foundation of the land of the free

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd be claiming a shitload of dependants on my state taxes.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

1 ovulation a month.

12 months a year.

Some basic math shows that my wife and I have well over 100 children according to Alabama, a good chunk from before I even met her.

Most couples with at least one female in it will have similar or higher numbers.

And all this just in time for tax season. It’s gonna be like Christmas for women, and hell for state tax officials.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

WTAF is a theocrat like this even doing in our government in the first place? He apparently cannot separate his little book club's narratives from his role in a secular government and now we learn he is a conspiracy theorist?

[–] Uglyhead@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What book club?

I don’t think he,…reads

[–] LocoOhNo@lemmus.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One need only look at the state to realize it's a shit show. Nothing in the Bible belt is worth saving.

[–] ElleChaise@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lotta good people you're throwing out with the bathwater there, but fuck 'em, I guess. You're stoking the flames whose destruction you condemn.

[–] LocoOhNo@lemmus.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know where you're seeing "good people" in the South. I live in Tennessee and I have to endure hearing people every goddamn day talking about destroying the country just to get back at the "left."

It's the only place I've ever seen "Trump Stores." And these people are ravenous about a second civil war. I just refuse to engage in trying to save people who don't want to be saved. Fuck the lot of them.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Imagine a gay woman living in Alabama. There's certainly a lot of them, we're everywhere after all. Do you think she's going to say what she really thinks while around strangers? Or is she going to keep her head down and try to avoid getting hate crimed?

You are in the bible belt. Should we abandon you too?

[–] LocoOhNo@lemmus.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not staying here. I've been planning my exit from this shit hole and the people here for a few months. I'm a gay man who has simply had enough.

There's no saving these people. The good ones are leaving, the rest are some of the worst people in the country; they either are dismissive of what's going on or indifferent.

Why would I waste my time voting here when my vote literally means nothing? This is a traitor enclave.

These people don't give a shit about anyone who doesn't go to their church, which is very denomination exclusive. You can't make them be civilized.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not everyone can afford to leave. Should we leave them to die?

You, yourself, haven't left yet. What if we abandoned the south before you had time to move? Oh, maybe you're the Last Good Person in the south, and once you're gone we can leave the rest to suffer! It's their fault for being born in the wrong states, after all. Especially the ones that are going to be born because their mothers were forced to give birth. They deserve it.

[–] LocoOhNo@lemmus.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not saying anything about whether or not I'm a good person. I'm saying that the number of good people here is a lot lower than you imagine. Pull up the draw bridge, IDGAF, I'll swim if I have to, but the American South is a shit hole that didn't deserve the reconstruction. They've not learned a goddamn thing.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not everyone can escape. Do they deserve to suffer and die?

And maybe we won't just blow up the bridge. Maybe we build a wall! Why not? You're all evil, we don't need that blight on our society. In fact, why not declare war? Why not kill literally everyone! D o n t y o u a l l d e s e r v e i t? 🙄

[–] LocoOhNo@lemmus.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ, you must be fun at parties...

The writing has been on the wall for quite a long time. Anybody that stays behind does so at their own risk. I'm not being lynched here. I'll take in others who want to leave when I get to where I'm going.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This isn't a fun topic. You're basically saying "everyone who gets lynched deserves it".

[–] LocoOhNo@lemmus.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I'm not "basically" saying that, but nice strawman attempt.

I have no interest in being a white knight. I'm fucking leaving. I don't have any obligation to financially cover people who can't leave; they have to make that decision.

What I'm saying is that the rest of the people here, the ones actively calling for the deaths of the LGBTQ+ are as useful as taste buds on an asshole.

I will not waste another breath on trying to convince them that they're horrible people. Not even within my own family. When the South inevitably attempts a second civil war, I'll help my LGBTQ+ brothers and sisters should they get to where I am. But they have to find the impetus to do so.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vibe check

Do you think I'm telling you to stay in the south? I never said that. I just specifically am pissed off by you saying "Nothing in the Bible belt is worth saving." That's it. You're free to leave, it isn't your job to sacrifice your life for voting lol

[–] LocoOhNo@lemmus.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And it isn't your job to defend the shittiest people on the planet, who by the way want you dead just as much as they do me. The difference is you want to defend the South.

This is an abusive relationship; the first time I get beat is the other person's fault. Every time after that is mine. I'm simply choosing to leave, and you want to victim shame. Bravo.

I got jumped in Daytona Beach in 2021. Three dudes in a pickup truck hopped out and beat the fuck out of me because I was wearing a pride bracelet. I was just able to recall enough of the truck to identify it, but because I didn't get the tag, they never caught the guys. The cops refused to treat it as a hate crime.

I left, even though I couldn't afford to do so. So your description of people not being able to leave doesn't pass the smell test.

Are there places in the North where I won't be safe? Of course. I'm not going to Boston. But I'm leaving the South because of the aforementioned abusive relationship analogy.

Again, I'm in no way obligated to get lynched because other people decide to stay. And believe you me, staying in a place full of people who jerk it at night thinking about killing the LGBTQ is a choice.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I literally never told you to stay. You've been arguing against a strawman of your own creation this entire time.

I don't want to defend "the South", it's a rotten culture that grew out of the Confederacy and there should have been a cultural revolution during Reconstruction. I want to defend the people in the South who are going to get lynched. People like you! You're literally one of the people that you're saying are the shittiest people on the planet. How many millions are just like you?

This broad "they" you keep using is a lot of people and you're just condemning millions of people to death because a lot of them are Christian nationalist crackers.

[–] LocoOhNo@lemmus.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fuck are you even taking to me for, then? Hit the bricks. Your opinion is diminishing in value with every reply. I don't have the time to sit and argue with an SJW with a shitty attitude who has done nothing but strawman me to death with hypotheticals.

Someone else responded to my initial comment with something about nukes, do you, for some reason, think that was me? I've not "condemned" anybody. I think you've got me fucked up with somebody else, so take that delightful attitude of yours and direct the vitriol elsewhere.

And, to be very clear, the South is 99% Christian nationalists, particularly in the Bible belt. Zero percent of them are worth saving. None.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And, to be very clear, the South is 99% Christian nationalists, particularly in the Bible belt. Zero percent of them are worth saving. None.

This is why I'm talking to you. This is just made a percentage you made up. The politics are so much more complicated and you're writing off innocent people out of your - justified - personal grievances. Hating your enemies is good (they hate us after all!) but you need to make sure you're correctly identifying your enemies.

The religious affiliations of adult people in Alabama are as follows: Christian – 86%, Non-Christian Faiths – 1%, Other faiths – 1%, Unaffiliated (religious "nones") – 12%

Yikes, right? However, we can subdivide this further. Of those Christians, Evangelicals (the ones chiefly associated with the Christian Nationalist political movement) represent 49% of all Christians. Yikes again! They're almost a majority of all Christians, and Christians are the extremely dominant majority of all people in Alabama. Those are our enemies.

Instead of just giving up on the South we need to unite all the disparate groups against Christian Nationalism and crush them like the cockroaches they are. We can defeat them and we can't just give up and let them win the South.

We need a new Reconstruction.

[–] LocoOhNo@lemmus.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those percentages are meaningless. If I walk into a restaurant and see a guy at a table with 9 Nazis, I see a table with 10 Nazis.

Christianity has 2 groups left; the people who are fascist motherfuckers and the people that condone fascist motherfuckers because they get what they want out of it. That's 99% of the South. That other 1% are people who need to leave.

I don't have any inclination whatsoever to engage with the Christians. None. They want to start shit, I'll be glad to finish it with a fucking smile on my face, but I'm not into fighting the American Al-Qaeda alone and I damn sure don't have any reason to live amongst them in the meantime because you think I have a duty to do so.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Again, when did I ask you to fight Y'all Qaeda alone? In fact I literally said you're free to leave and it isn't your job to stay in the South to fight them in the first place! You keep building up strawmen to attack and I don't know why.

As to the legitimate point that "If I walk into a restaurant and see a guy at a table with 9 Nazis, I see a table with 10 Nazis." I think it's worth pointing out they aren't at the same table. They don't go to the same churches, they aren't in the same social groups, they're literally different.

I'm comfortable saying all the Evangelicals are enemies but not literally all Christians when some denominations literally have queer pastors and do same sex weddings and the like. There's clearly different factions and we need to drive deeper wedges between them instead of lumping them together.

Don't go around making more enemies - we have enough of them.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Partisan judges are automatically unqualified.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wrong

We need partisan leftist judges to crack down on cops, slumlords, union busting, discrimination, and other vile expressions of rightist ideology.

[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To me, the things you mentioned lean more towards basic human rights. I don’t think it would be fair to call a judge partisan if he or she rules to preserve those. But I’m just a dude on the internet. Happy Friday friend!

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You aren't wrong, and and yet all those things I mentioned fall on partisan lines anyway. The problem isn't partisanship, it's right-wingers. If we got rid of those judges and replaced them with leftist partisans instead we could actually start fixing things. Justice is political, you can't escape that!

But I'm just a girl with a dream. 😏

[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think you are wrong either. I just think that the word partisan might be too strong? Ideally, I’d like my judges neutral, but where do you find those nowadays right?

Stay safe sis.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think that's a trick the right played on us, to convince us that we should be apolitical and stop us from getting politically organized. Meanwhile, they're explicitly partisan and that's why they keep winning. Basic human rights aren't neutral and we shouldn't be either.

Reject idealism. Embrace politics. Solidarity forever. ✊

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don’t think you are wrong either. I just think that the word partisan might be too strong? Ideally, I’d like my judges neutral, but where do you find those nowadays right?

I think that’s a trick the right played on us, to convince us that we should be apolitical and stop us from getting politically organized.

The core belief system of the United States of America has always been to have fair and impartial judges. It's not a conspiracy theory from either side.

Having said that, either side would love to stack the court system in their favor, and the conservatives especially have been actively working on that for quite a while now.

As Americans, we shouldn't allow that to happen (FFS vote smart on judges!), either way. There's a reason why Justice is always shown with a scale.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

The core belief system of the United States of America has always been to have fair and impartial judges. It’s not a conspiracy theory from either side.

The bipartisan consensus is right-wing because America is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everything is about perspectives and everything has nuance that must be taken into account. Yes, that can be really fucking annoying and sometimes works against our hopeful outcomes and does cause our good soundbite moments to be tarnished. There is not a singular universal argument in favor or against every single possible concept we create as a thinking society. To some extent, everything as we conceptualize it is malleable.

Your whole argument looks wholesale more about rejecting politics to embrace idealism. Which is a good thing in my estimation, and seems better situated to have outcomes more inline with what you, and we all, may be looking for out of life in general. Basic human rights aren't political, they're an ideal that goes beyond the limitations of politics.

So in that way, the following works exactly the same towards your preferential outcomes:

Reject politics. Embrace Idealism. Solidarity forever.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Okay so if you reject politics you literally can't get judges appointed. 👀

With that out of the way-

"Rights", as a concept, are inherently political. A right is literally a political carve-out that enshrines a mandate and creates a political obligation to uphold it. Idealism can be employed to support certain rights, but rights themselves can only exist through politics.