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[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Just removed like 40 comments and banned a buncha people.

[–] dsmaster7173@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

holy shit they kicked the tankies out of 196

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[–] queue@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Agree with you in general, but I think a lot if people here are not really informed what differences there are materialistic ideologies.

Yes, Stalin bad.

But Guevara is not Stalin.

Marx is not che

Engels is not Marx

China is not communist.

Marxism is not materialism

Socialism is not communism

Also the amount of people bringing the "the 3 times people tried socialism were bad, so the whole ideology must be bad" argument are way to high IMHO.

How many times was capitalism tried? How many times it worked out? Is the USA a "functioning" state with all the oppression, racism, greed, invading other countries out of monetarian interest and environment destruction?

While I agree with you, that oppression is bad, no matter what the oppressor calls himself, we should talk about policies without resorting to dogmas and generalising people in favor of fear the hegemonic class is propagating to stay in power.

[–] Sekoia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Yeah, that's not the tankies here; these are "North Korea is a great country, actually" tankies.

[–] pleasemakesense@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also, "anything negative about a communist country is US propaganda"

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

or "russia is correctly in invading ukraine"

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[–] SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

When a liberal says "tankie" they mean anything remotely communist-looking. When a leftist says "tankie", they mean authoritarians who like red flags and self-proclaimed communists who nonetheless support hierarchies and have no plan or intention to bring them down. I think the vast majority of people here knows this already.

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[–] Ginjutsu@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (20 children)

Is the USA a “functioning” state with all the oppression, racism, greed, invading other countries out of monetarian interest and environment destruction?

I hope you realize that this is an incredibly privileged take. The US is rife with issues, but the hardships experienced by the average western citizen doesn't even compare to the suffering that you would find in, say, Pol Pot's Cambodia, or (to a less extreme extent) Maduro's Venezuela. To compare what a US citizen deals with on a daily basis due to capitalism to what a citizen of any of those countries had to go through is very reductive and may be perceived as disrespectful to many who had to live those experiences.

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[–] rowie324@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 years ago

tankies more like no thankies

[–] tanja@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Based.

They already have lemmygrad.

Honestly, I don't think we need them here.

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[–] Big_Farto@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I got banned from lemmygrad for saying acab means all cops lmao

[–] phthalocyanin@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

they yearn for the glorious people's boot

[–] nunyunuymi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago

500 years ago these mfs were the pro monarchy serfs

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Meanwhile anarchist organizing doesn't have cops, it has Agents of Community Defense who definitely aren't cops!

I have nothing against anarchists, but you need to see past slogans to be anything but a useful idiot to neoliberals.

[–] Big_Farto@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

I mean any person or entity that enforces oppressive laws is a bastard. The government of China is far from some sort of benevolent state.

[–] shadowscale@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

there's literally a community called "moretankie196", they should go infest that one instead

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[–] Whisdeer@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Can we have something like tankiejerk here? I seriously liked browsing that sub after a bad day with the red fashs.

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[–] lazy_digestive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This comment section is really something uh

[–] Silverstrings@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Tankies on their way to explain why teaming up with the Nazis to conquer Poland is actually based and totally in line with Marxist philosophy.

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[–] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (9 children)

What are some good actual communist lemmy communities that aren't supporting the fucking capitalist imperialist russian invasion?

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[–] NoTime@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Silverstrings@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

No one is suggesting that the states the authoritarian communists replaced were good or functional, just that they failed to actually uplift and make people's lives better. There's nothing to admire about one oppressive state being replaced by another.

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[–] VoidCrow@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago
[–] animelivesmatter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

finds social media developed by tankies

looks inside

finds tankies

fr I'm down with having a good old purge eventually but noone should be surprised

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[–] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Thank fuck. I thought Lemmy was some ultra militant leftist hellhole before the shift.

I don't like extreme radical left any more than extreme radical right.

Fuck Che Guevara. Read a book.

[–] fae@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

tankies arent radical left. they are authoritarians ffs

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[–] Sekoia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago

This post has literally 6 times the comments of the next most-comments post, jesus. Wonder what could have triggered this!

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