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Youtube is far too expensive for anyone to try and run a competitor to. I don't think we'll ever see a replacement.
Google is still losing money on it, and might never make it profitable. There's a real risk that Youtube just dies on its own and nothing replaces it.
Can anyone eli5 why pornhub doesn't just use their long standing streaming infrastructure to create a sfw site like... Idk "VidHub"? I feel like they could be a genuine competition with very little adjustment.
Youtube is waaaay different from pornhub. The amount of people uploading porn doesnt even begin to approach the amount of people uploading sfw content.
You can feasibly make people pay for porn, especially if you get a hot girl to advertise the content to lonely men.
SFW content though? How do you convince someone to pay for a gaming VOD, or some other type of mundane content? Hosting sfw video is just not profitable on the scale that youtube does it. Not without the backing of some SERIOUS money π¬
@IsThisLemmyOpen Reddit is not dead, yet.
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Neither is Digg. Or myspace. Or many of dozens of services that used to be popular and fell into irrelevance.
But Reddit is hardly irrelevant. they are still MASSIVE compared to those examples
Lemmy is irrelevant compared to Reddit. Completely and utterly. Thereβs what, a single medium-sized subreddit over all instances here?
Being in its infancy doesn't make it irrelevant.
The three words he typed after irrelevant were kinda important to his point.
And they were implied in my own, but I'm happy to extend my statement for you: Being in its infancy doesn't make it irrelevant compared to Reddit. In fact, that line of thinking from Reddit's leadership will lead them to obscurity more quickly than if they take this seriously. Just existing as a viable alternative is a big deal. We haven't had one for a very long time.
Reddit is far from dead. Most of the subs I care about are back.
YouTube won't die anytime soon because running a Video Streaming Platform is way too expensive if you're not a big company. So there's no good alternatives. PeerTube Instances couldn't handle the massive data that YouTube can
Never, the big name content creators will never boycott YouTube like Reddit mods for large subs did because YouTube pays them and no one takes alternatives seriously enough to even just mirror their content on an alternative. I've been trying to support YouTube alternatives as much as I can but I'm only one person, I'd be naive to think that I alone could make a difference.
I don't think anything will ever replace YouTube. Did you ever wonder why there aren't many good alternatives?
It's because video streaming websites are very expensive and usually run at a loss. The storage and bandwidth to support all these users constantly uploading and watching videos is really high. It's why the Twitch competitor Mixer shut down a few years ago, it was bleeding money.
I use an adblocker and hate ads as much as the next person but imo prople do take these video services for granted. They need ads to survive and I can't imagine a world where I'd need to pay a subscription to use them.
I have to wonder how effective PeerTube might be in lessening the bandwidth costs at scale. So far the PeerTube instances I've seen have had so few users that I rarely see my computer uploading to other users or other users uploading to me.
Even then peer to peer isn't a good solution for me because I have limited upload/download where I live.
Ah that's unfortunate. Bandwidth caps need to die.
Peer Tube could take off by us uploading to it and linking it from Lemmy
The only problem is YouTube has a way to monetize their videos, attracting creators who work to make money on the content. PeerTube doesnβt have that yet.
Handling ads and payments is a whole other issue that federated platforms haven't even begun to tackle yet. Crypto might be a way forward but it's messy enough that it might turn some people off.
Something like Patreon should work just as well with peertube if it's otherwise suitable, right?
Youtube is one of the things that less techie people think of when it comes to internet videos. Itβs quite mainstream and will stay for long.
Youtube has already become a verb much like google.
There are already many other sites and as YouTube keeps getting worse and greedier there will probably be more and more creators going elsewhere.
One example is firearms content moving to utreon. And obviously nsfw which has never been welcome there being available on many other hosts.
YouTube is not the only possible video service that can exist in the world.
It's unlikely that another monopoly can take over their business as a whole, but YouTube can definitely fail and video hosting has long been fragmented.
The worst thing about youtube is that they forced all my favourite youtubers into becoming streamers, and that's just an entirely different type of content.
Reddit is dead?
It depends on how long people will desire long form video content. Maybe 15 years?
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I'm constantly forced to find new extensions that hide Youtube Shorts because they stop working regularly.
Odysee and Rumble are actually really solid alternatives to YouTube. They're just missing the content. No, they're not as good as YouTube, but they're good enough.
The problem really is that if Odysee for example got really big, one of the other corporate giants would just buy it and turn it into shit, there seems to be no winning this battle in the long term.
edit: wow I just want there and its pretty obvious they have zero moderation there, the content is overrun with conspiracy garbage and anti-government insanity. That place is DOA.
Rumble is lacking so many simple features that YouTube has, like being able to just listen to content while the screen is off. YouTube seems to be the only video streaming app able to do this.
Only if you pay for YouTube Premium tho. I use the YouTube mobile site with either Brave or Firefox + Video Background Play Fix extension to workaround this silly limitation.
No one has solved a way to make hosting massive amounts of videos cheap, and this is unlikely to happen anytime soon due to the large amount of data storage and bandwidth required.
So no, even if YouTube somehow becomes even more tyrannical than it is itβs unlikely weβll ever see it decentralized and federated the way Lemmy is in a usable way anytime soon.
Has anybody done the math? How much would each YouTube user have to pay each month to pay for hosting those videos?
If we want an Internet that doesn't suck, we need to get over the idea that everything has to be free (as in beer).