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Sherri Tenpenny is no longer a licensed physician after airing fringe comments and ducking investigators.

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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 150 points 2 years ago

good, because if that bullshit were true, I wouldn’t be dropping spoons all the time.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 80 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] pedro@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago

The article started with "Texas", so I did not go further. Felt like enough was said

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago (10 children)

How did she become a Doctor? Is the one of those times where just pretended one day, got away with it and just carried on?

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 87 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

I actually know one family doctor who is really, really smart. He took care of my family, and he has always been on point with his advice.

Three years ~~from now~~ (edit:) ago, he started spewing bullshit about vaccines. It was really disappointing.

My point is, some people (including thia doctor) are very susceptible to social media brainwashing. I'm not justifying them, but I can see how they became doctors long, long, long ago when we were not constantly online.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, know a teacher. Smart person.

Had the COVID shot, had side effects (flu symptoms), "researched" online. Next time we saw her, she had opinions on Hunter Biden and thinks Russia is justified in invading Ukraine. Don't really want to talk with them any more. You end up tiptoeing around things so as not to activate the Fox news programming.

She's not even American. This shit is more infectious than any virus. You don't even have to leave home to catch it.

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

"I know I spent a decade or more of my life in post-grad, spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, attended hundreds of hours of lectures, but this blog with a .blogspot.com domain just convinced me that vaccines can ionize your body"

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Three years from now would mean three years into the future.

Three years ago would be three years into the past.

And yes it’s sad how even intelligent people fall down very deep rabbit holes.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've noticed a few people on here use "x years from now" incorrectly to refer to the past. I wonder if it's an ESL thing and maybe their native language uses that construct to refer to the future.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

You're discounting the possibility that the person is a time traveler.

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[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I've read that intelligent people can be more susceptible to rabbit holes because they trust themselves to see through the bullshit. They don't realise the bullshit is carefully crafted to slip past their filters.

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[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Woo boy, a couple years ago I got a vasectomy. I didn't know the doctor, I'm not at an age that one typically sees a urologist. This otherwise seemingly intelligent and congenial medical professional starts making small talk about how much bullshit the COVID vaccine is WITH MY NUTS IN HIS HANDS. I just nodded and grunted noncommittally until I could rush out of that office. Bright side is his work has held up at least!

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Being smart in one subject doesn't mean anything else. I have meet some interesting characters in engineering. One I worked with only drank fluoride removed water and every day wolfed down a king size candy bar. Which according to him was okay since it is sugar and sugar is natural. His teeth were as you expect. Also had like 8 patents.

[–] somethingp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Yes unfortunately intelligence does not seem to be a protective factor against media illiteracy. That is also not something that is focused on in medical education too much, and definitely wasn't being emphasized by small schools in the 80s (which is when this Ohio person went to school).

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[–] tal@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

It sounds like she may be a scam artist rather than an idiot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherri_Tenpenny

she is the author of four books opposing vaccination

Tenpenny promotes anti-vaccination videos sold by Ty and Charlene Bollinger and receives a commission whenever her referrals result in a sale, a practice known as affiliate marketing.

If you look at her website, the front page is mostly selling her books and various snake oil treatments, like "heavy metal detox" substances. looks further And what appears to be faith healing stuff.

Getting a medical degree doesn't mean that you can't be a scam artist.

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[–] Iwasondigg@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Seriously! How does someone with a medical degree think magnetism manifests in the human body?

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What do they call the person who graduated at the bottom of their class in med school?

"Doctor."

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

She did her undergrad at PragerU and her residency at Trump University Collij uh Medisin.

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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

At first, I thought that revoking her license on procedural grounds, rather than addressing the nonsense she was spewing, was a cowardly decision. After some thought, I realized that the board probably did the right thing. They are using this opportunity to reinforce the board’s authority, which is essential. They’re also giving themselves a second chance to revoke her license on professional grounds, in case she fights the procedural decision in court and somehow wins.

Also, I wonder how the Ohio Advocates for Medical Freedom feel about a woman’s right to choose? I can only guess, but this “nonpartisan” group provides a handy election guide which endorses every Republican and absolutely no Democrats. That might be a clue. I bet they don’t even see the hypocrisy of using the words “Medical Freedom “, because they don’t acknowledge that abortion is health care.

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[–] milkjug@lemmy.wildfyre.dev 33 points 2 years ago

Big Magnet once again tries to silence the truth!1!

[–] Zardoz@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wanna be magnetized! I think my vaccines were defective.

[–] jelyfride@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 years ago

Seriously- how is this not a selling point?

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[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 2 years ago (5 children)

To be fair an osteopathic doctor is barely even a doctor to begin with... more like a glorified masseuse.

[–] somethingp@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago

My background: I'm a medical student (MD school), in a combined MD/PhD program. I've completed my PhD and am in the last year of the MD.

I think you might be confusing DO's with chiropractors. Most DO's go through the same licensing exams and residencies as MDs. Some of the other comments are true that MD schools can be more difficult to get in to, but this has to do with their performance in undergraduate education. By the end of their respective programs, MDs and DOs are usually competing for the same residency programs using the same board exams.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I was told by multiple MD holders that DOs and MDs were basically the same at this point. Were they being polite?

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Maybe.

Although, medical doctors are also known to be severely lacking in skepticism and understanding of the scientific method (much like engineers), so depending on the doctor you talked to, they might actually believe it.

Source: anecdotal, but I've spent my entire adult life in higher ed chemistry departments taking classes with and then teaching premeds, and it's a real thing. Med school does nothing to alleviate this, being focused as it is on basically troubleshooting a single particularly complicated and poorly designed machine.

Edit: here are a few studies that corroborate my experience, although they're far from comprehensive ( Source 1 and Source 2)

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This comment is severely out of line and admittedly anecdotal.

"Medical doctors are also known to be severely lacking in skepticism and the scientific method (much like engineers)"

That is a broad and ignorant statement that is as outlandish as it is contrived.

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[–] somethingp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I just want to emphasize that the two studies you've linked to are not for US graduate DOs/MDs. One is for practicing physicians in Israel and the other is 1st year medical students in India. Not sure about the Israeli medical education, but in India a medical degree (mbbs) is an undergraduate degree. So looking at 1st year medical students is the equivalent of a fresh high school graduate. I would be interested to know what this looks like in the US because a large part of medical education is built around research, at least early in training. Everyone has varying aptitude and interest in research (like anything else), but you'd be hard pressed to find a US trained MD/DO who has become licensed in the last 20 years and has never done any research. It might surprise you to know that most of medicine is, in fact, evidence based which requires us to learn how to interpret said evidence. Both for when we need to make decisions about applying research to our own practice, as well as for answering patient questions about things they might've come across on Google, MD.

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[–] TheMusicalFruit@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

This is not true.

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[–] MSids@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

'Sherri Tenpenny, an osteopathic doctor who says she’s been researching for 21 years vaccine adverse events, testified before a legislative committee this week that people can stick keys, spoons and forks to their foreheads after getting the coronavirus vaccine possibly because they've been magnetized.'

Yeah keys are brass or nickel and brass. Both are non-ferrous.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't believe this comment! He's been compromised by big magnet!

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Good.

The medical community needs to come down harder on these people, if you ask me. It's not a free speech matter when junk science is being proliferated and causing people's deaths, and there should be professional and legal consequences for people who do this.

[–] EmptyRadar@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Damn they won't make me magnetic? That would be useful, I could avoid dropping screws and bits every time I do a project.

[–] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

I was hoping to be able to take down the X-Men soon, but this bitch lied to me!

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago
[–] Iwasondigg@lemmy.one 9 points 2 years ago

How do these crackpots become doctors? What the ever-loving fuck!

[–] bentropy@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (7 children)

That's no world news, that's cleveland news. Please post content that's relevant to the world.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago

You’re right; it’s not world news. That’s why I didn’t post it in the world news community, but in the news community.

Perhaps you’d prefer to follow the world news community instead of the news one, if that’s specifically what you’re looking for?

[–] thereisalamp@reddthat.com 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

I disagree, Sheri Tenpenny has been among the most damaging voices in the antivax arena since it began. This is a relevant as Andrew Wakefield losing his license. Her claims are used worldwide by the anti Vax, covid denying nut jobs.

Just because it happened in Ohio doesn't mean it is limited to Ohio.

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[–] poopsmith@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Is there a rule saying this community is only for world news? Most other posts here aren't world news.

There is another community explicitly for world news, !world@lemmy.world

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[–] Poot@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

I was hoping that getting the vaccine would let me shoot Jewish Space Lasers out of my eyes, but all the vaccine did for me was make me ruin my credit cards every time I try to swipe them! 😕

[–] bauhaus@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

at least I still get free 5G! Thanks Obama!

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I got da vaccine and my internet is still trash. Fake news.

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