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I got a lot of my headlines from reddit. Due to the impending death of my favorite app (Sync for Reddit) however, that's coming to an end.

I'm now realising my Reddit experience had deteriorated slowly, just doomscrolling the hours away wasn't healthy and I'm even kind of glad this is a good reason to end it. However, reddit has been really useful for news, especially the comments (taken with the right amount of skepticism) could be very informative.

I hope Lemmy builds something similar, but the defederation of beehaw's news has been a setback.

What would be a good alternative, going forward, for getting news and backgrounds from varied, trustworthy en unbiased sources?

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[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

RSS feeds from PBS and NPR

[–] OFS_Razgriz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Both of them have truly neutral coverage, as in they report based on fact and reality and don't limit what they write in order to maintain some false sense of neutrality. Many news sites nowadays play down objective fact in order to maintain "neutrality" between one side of the political spectrum that believes in evidence and statistical fact and one that expressly does not.

This of course means that they're seen as being "anti-Trump" or "anti-Republican" but in actuality it's reality itself that is anti-Trump and they just report reality.

[–] 14specks@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I would caution against putting so much faith in them both so strongly. They both favor American establishment liberal politics, which is transparent to many due to the fact that a lot of Americans agree with those politics, and that they appear very reasonable in comparison to whatever tf Republicans are up to on a given day.

It's not a bad thing that they tend to have a very dry and straightforward tone, but all outlets are biased, and it's important to remain critical at all times if you want to have an accurate picture of a current event.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

If you want as close as possible to true "neutrality" -- which is to mean verifiable fact-only reporting without commentary, you're going to need to go to the wire services directly -- the AP and Reuters are the largest.

[–] Soullioness@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

As someone that's never used RSS, how does it work?

[–] Cha0zz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe not directly an answer to your question but I don’t believe Reddit was a trustworthy and unbiased news source. Hell it wasn’t even that varied imo with news mainly being about what’s happening in the US with a focus on politics. Tbh I really don’t know what a good news source would be that thicks all your boxes.

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah but the truth of the matter usually came out in the comments

[–] Cha0zz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sure I agree with that. The problem is that the comments also often include statements without sources, plain out wrong information, etc. Much of which can also be highly upvoted. So even with the context of the comments finding unbiased good news requires you to be very sceptic and isn’t always straightforward. Additionally each subreddit has its own target audience which will also inherently result in some bias in both the news that is posted as the comments on said news. But tbh a perfectly unbiased news source probably does not exist as we are all human.

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You're right you gotta bring your bucket of salt for all them pinches, but it was often the case that if someone posted a bullshit answer there'd be a repudiation to it; if that one was bollocks? Someone else chimed in. Eventually you have enough to aggregate some semblance of the truth.

The pitfall is relying on votes to do the vetting for you, and reluctance to research under your own power in lieu of citations. Cumbersome work, but if you really want the real picture it's never 100% painless.

[–] Morningcoffee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I found it difficult to describe how exactly the comments were informing, sometimes even moreso than the article itself, but this is exactly it.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

I agree that there was generally a consensus in the comments, but that doesn't mean the consensus was correct. Often, different subreddits would come to different conclusions. I think there is a big risk of falling in to the "conformation bias" trap when relying on community consensus.

In not sure if there's a better way to determine the truth, though.

[–] Radicalized@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I use an app called Artifact that aggregates news from many sources into a FYP and categories. There’s even comments for each article.

[–] OrangeXarot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

I'm going to try it

[–] warboyziri@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

@Radicalized I saw some articles on artifact bearing the sign 'rewritten using an AI' and backed out of using the app to avoid that

[–] sylverstream@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago

That looks pretty cool, thanks!

[–] Emberleaf@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

I just discovered https://newsnotfound.com/ and I quite like it! Well worth checking out. :)

[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no source is truly unbiased, but I am also curious about where to find news/worldnews - there's a few non-beehaw options but they're not updated that often.

for tech stuff I always default to arstech, cnet, and slashdot, but I honestly dont feel like navigating between all of the various disparate news websites on a daily basis - or even a weekly basis to be honest.

[–] Trusting@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I honestly dont feel like navigating between all of the various disparate news websites on a daily basis - or even a weekly basis to be honest.

This is a perfect use case for a feed reader.

[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

any suggestions on a good feed reader?

[–] sylverstream@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like FeedMe (Android). Syncs to my Feedly account so I can also look at the web on my desktop

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For years I've heard feed readers were better than reddit, I suppose now is the time to test!

[–] sylverstream@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago

To be honest, I've tried a couple of times, but I miss reading comments. Some sites of course have comments but it's not the same.

[–] Trusting@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

Honestly they are quite different, there are pros and cons. A feed reader shows purely what you are subscribed to, and there is no algorithm that rates which links you should see first. You have to curate your own feeds.

[–] dominik@nona.social 2 points 2 years ago

@tallwookie @Trusting I quite like NetNewsWire with Inoreader as a sync backend

[–] god@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

go to ground.news, they have news from both sides of the spectrum and label them as such and it's kind of like a reddit for news?? world news specifically tho

[–] Xeelee@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

While i like the idea on principle, I think they have a lot of bothsideism on their site. Dividing everything into "left" or "right" is not a really valid approach.

[–] redditblackoutkekw@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

Aljazeera is fantastic, I've been reading them for years and years. Their middle eastern news tends to be biased, but everything else is good. Of course, never trust a single news source on anything

[–] mcc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Check out ground news. It is a news aggregator, but with a twist: it aggregates all articles on the same event from various sites so you can see how the event is portrayed by different sites.

[–] aleph-1@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ground.news is great.

There's also allsides.com, which has a similar idea.

[–] speck@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I was just going to link that! Two articles on the topic:

https://www.thefactual.com/blog/what-are-the-best-nonpartisan-news-sources/

https://www.makeuseof.com/top-unbiased-news-sources/

I tried my hand at creating a magazine https://kbin.social/m/neutralnews

Haven't done a lot with it, though. But it was in response to the same dilemma as OP

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

Damn thats a good call. What a great site.

[–] degrails@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just subscribe to RSS feeds from your new sites.

I use InnoReader, which I prefer to Feedly. Syncs Free plan allows you up to 150 feeds and shows ads (which you can easily get around).

[–] pandarisu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm currently using Feedly. I subscribe to news outlets that I trust, and just read what I'm interested in there

[–] TurboRotary@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks for suggestion Inoreader! I've just had a look and it looks great, in particular with their pre-made collections.

[–] nivenkos@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think it's best to never read the news, you'll find about stuff that actually affects you naturally anyway.

Focus on communities for your hobbies and career instead.

[–] Balssh@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I’d argue that one should not stop reading the news forever because you’ll just become increasingly disconnected from what happens around you. As with all things, reading news in moderation and not doomscrolling is the way I think.

[–] Rian@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah agreed. I think limiting it - great, yes, 100% do that. I tend to look through important news things on Sundays (usually via scrolling through a few sites - SBS, BBC, Al Jazeera, and then doing a bit more research about topics that interest me), and then not really engaging outside of then.

I'm not into ignoring the news and figuring that important things will naturally come through to me, both because there are important things that happen which won't necessarily come up in regular conversation, and also because people - no matter how much I trust them - are going to give their own spin on things. So you both risk missing out on important news, and gaining important news through a skewed lens.

(I don't mean to imply that the media doesn't skew the lens of news, which is why I visit a few different sites.)

[–] Balssh@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Absolutely agree with your approach. Also not being aware about news at all might make those in power get away with passing nocive legislation without much resistance from the population.

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[–] lotanis@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

I like to keep up to date enough on the things my government chooses to do so that I can make an informed choice the next time I vote.

[–] MeowKittyWow@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Very interested in others folks answers. Honestly, I follow a lot of people on Mastodon who share news. I also follow hashtags for my local area (and here on threadiverse, subscribed to communities focused on my local area). This seems to work okay but isn't quite the firehouse I'm used to.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

The context I got from reddit comment threads was invaluable. I hope to find something similar in the federated wilderness.

[–] lotanis@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've started using newsminimalist.com It's one of the most useful LLM based services I've seen. It's an aggregator that uses ChatGPT to identify the significance of stories and group the articles on different sites about that story together and then summarise them.

I don't want to spend hours every day reading news, but I do want to keep up to date with major events and it's been good for that.

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[–] ramesdunc@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I like brutalist.report.

It shows the headlines of many news sites in a clean way: just text links. It also has filters for tech, science, politics, etc.

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