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[–] MrMamiya@feddit.de 71 points 2 years ago (6 children)

If Linux was dominant it wouldn’t be Linux. There would be more pressure to monetize and there would always be someone willing to sell out for that money. You can see this even in the Linux community today. I’m sorry I had to be so negative about it though, it sounds nice.

[–] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 64 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe it should say, “If the world went open source, and capitalism went away.”

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Even fantasy should have some limits folks c'mon now

[–] jamieWxyzt@kulupu.duckdns.org 9 points 2 years ago

Which is more fantastical? Unlimited profits and line going up forever in a finite world? Or capitalism actually ending so all lives can live free from subjugation?

[–] vettnerk@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If windows didn't exist, linux would dominate with the problems you describe, and we'd still see this meme, but advocating for FreeBSD instead.

That being said, I like them both. It's been a while since I last used bsd, so I think it's about time I give it another spin.

[–] itsJoelle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I'm unsure. I switch between MacOS and Linux regularly.

I'd reckon Apple's OS would dominate the "user friendly" space(not saying Linux is bad, just what everyone memes).

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Linux is already dominant on just about everything except the desktop, and it has yet to suffer significant enshittification.

Edit: Well, a bunch of Linux distributions have suffered enshittification, if that counts.

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[–] tool@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If Linux was dominant it wouldn’t be Linux. There would be more pressure to monetize and there would always be someone willing to sell out for that money. You can see this even in the Linux community today. I’m sorry I had to be so negative about it though, it sounds nice.

This is a very Desktop/workstation-centric view of the situation and you're completely neglecting 3/4ths of the story. Linux is already hilariously dominant on the on-prem server and Cloud side of things. Like, it's not even close. Pretty much any website you visit, the odds are overwhelming that it's running Linux. Even Microsoft runs most of the underlying infrastructure for Azure and Github on Linux. Android is the #1 mobile phone platform in the world, which runs on, you guessed it, Linux.

And it's already monetized to the gills. Red Hat has multi-billion earnings per quarter, every quarter, and Canonical is almost certainly going to IPO this year.

It's already dominant in pretty much every space it touches and it has been for a very long time. Desktop/workstation is pretty much the singular exception to that.

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[–] teamonkey@lemm.ee 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don’t see anyone outside so it checks out.

[–] MrSlicer@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They are all learning how to use the terminal.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They are inside trying to compile the software thst opens the automatic doors.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago

They will die there, because they need a slightly older version of some minor library for compatibility, and nobody cared enough to continue hosting it.

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[–] Boogeyman4325@reddthat.com 46 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Not really. Having heterogeneity among operating systems is better than pure homogeneity. Say, if everyone ran Linux, and some massive security flaw was discovered, we would all be screwed at the same time. However, if we ran different stuff, and some massive security hole was found for just one operating system, then only a small portion of the world is vulnerable at once. Besides, more operating systems can lead to more innovation, as long as there is good competition between them.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The problem is capitalism, not which kernel everything runs. And the reason FOSS isn't universal is also capitalism.

[–] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's more complicated to make money producing FOSS, capitalism or not. Lots of reasonable developers would still choose closed source even without capitalism.

[–] hellishharlot@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Making money is a capitalist adjacent idea. The premise that we need money to figure out how to allocate resources is foolish

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm still waiting for someone to propose in detail an alternative.

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[–] vrkr@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The premise that we need money to figure out how to allocate resources is foolish

Money not necessarily, we need to calculate costs (and minimize it) in distributed fashion.

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[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 35 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Aren’t the majority of computers already on Linux? Unless you mean desktops

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[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No because as others have already said, why would 1 thing dominating everything be good?

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

Its not dominating everything but we can make foss our own. I.e. Linux don't dominate over us but "we are using linux the way we want"

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[–] TomMonkeyMan@chinese.lol 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

they miss the statue of Linus Torvalds

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[–] Rakust@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, because everyone would be sitting around jacking each other off about using linux, if current trends are to be believed.

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[–] stilgar@infosec.pub 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, you missed the homeless encampments, forest fires and car centric cities.

There's no apt install utopia.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

Because you have forgotten sudo

[–] Poopmeister@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Would expect the architecture to be a bit more on the brutalist side of things

[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

The world runs on KDE (or gnome)

[–] vrkr@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No place for bazaar. Looks more like corporations wet dream.

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[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago

Linux kernel

Nah bro, chrome OS is fucking ridiculous not to mention android too.

We need the other linux not just kernel.

[–] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago

So you mean we would have weird useless concrete structures everywhere? I doubt it

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Until the moment someone finds a privilage escalation bug.

[–] Yuki@kutsuya.dev 5 points 2 years ago
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[–] Gargari@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

It does run on Linux 😁😁😁

[–] original_ish_name@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, firewalls should use openBSD

[–] towerful@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Why?
I've tried to Google this, but it's such a general statement I can't find anything about it.
Is it more mature in that regard? Sane/sensible/safe defaults for networking? More tools as part of the distribution for networking?
Did FreeBSD (or it's predecessor/upstream/whatever) define the standards, so the implementation is more correct?

Or is it just that so many firewall applications run on top of FreeBSD (or a BSD flavour) eg opnSense, pfSense, openWRT (is openWRT actually BSD, idk)?
So, kinda a historical/momentum thing. With the benefits of wide spread specific use

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I personally don't have a lot of experience with this, but here's a writeup about OpenBSD: https://nxdomain.no/~peter/what_every_it_person_needs_to_know_about_openbsd.html

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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is that image supposed to represent an utopia?

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Its urban hell, but a few more trees

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[–] jhulten@infosec.pub 6 points 2 years ago

All monocultures suck.

[–] superbirra@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] milkjug@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Probably done in jest, but this reads like the 100,000,000th “agree?” bullshit post on LinkedIn.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 5 points 2 years ago

If everyone used Linux I would use BSD

[–] s12@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

“But if we put all the world’s shares into Linux, the other Kernel Patron Units would be incapacitated!”

… I doubt anyone will get this reference.

[–] RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

No, because that would make me stupid.

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