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I don't really have a question but I want to talk about noodles, please. Is a tamale a noodle or a sandwich?

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[–] clueless_stoner@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Hello there, please edit your title to include a question :) See rule 1

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Badabinski@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can edit titles‽ That's fantastic.

[–] ohmyiv@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Oh, damn. An interrobang user‽‽ That's fanastic! They should be more popular.

[–] exterstellar@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Technically, a tamale is a calzone according to the cube rule.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I understand the cube rule, I just don't think I can really subscribe to it. Calling a bowl of lucky charms nachos is inaccurate, it's clearly a soup.

[–] glomag@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

Exactly, cube rule is inconsistent and needlessly complicated. Both are salads

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

woah, this is why i have reached out to The Internet.

[–] MrsEaves@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Didn’t know I could be more upset about this argument but this rule really takes the ~~cake~~ sandwich. Though for this specific instance, I agree it’s a calzone.

[–] CynAq@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

I love how "toast" includes sushi as an example but sushi doesn't

[–] gmatkins@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Tamales are open on one side when they're steamed. That makes them quiche by this rule.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does this mean I can get thin crust tamales in New York, and grease death tamales in Chicago

[–] ohmyiv@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

In L.A., there's everything from grease death and masa bombs to thin crust and dry. Husk wrapped or banana leaf wrapped. Savory or sweet. We got it all.

[–] quaddo@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Oh this is fantastic! Thanks for this.

Also, first kbin/post-Reddit post. Woo.

[–] SoupOfTheDay@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Isn’t the whole point of “toast” that it’s bread that is toasted? How can sushi, an undeniable raw food be “toast”? I’ll accept the cube rule, but toast needs a new classification.,

[–] blivet@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The rice isn’t raw, just cold.

[–] SoupOfTheDay@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’ll give you that, but still, it’s certainly not toasted.

[–] ohmyiv@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It's not necessarily about the actual toasting. It's about how ingredients are layered. So, toast and butter is the same as rice and fish. That's how a Big Mac can be a cake.

The whole cube rule is just ragebait. And it works well lol

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[–] Saturdaycat@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

What the...

[–] WisteriaCat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Neither! A tamale is corn masa with typically a meat filling. You could consider it a dumpling or a pie. Noodles do not have a stuffing and sandwiches tend to have a distinct layers. I would consider a taco or maybe a gordita a sandwich, but not a tamale. Although this does make me wonder, what would a burrito be classified as? (not counting wrap because that is too easy)

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

A burrito is um... a form of a tamale. Actually, it's sushi

[–] quortez@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This type of food taxonomy is always fascinating and disturbing, as it tends to spawn even more unhinged classifications (ravioli is a dumpling. A bowl of cereal is a salad).

That being said, the most politically neutral take would be that tamales are a pie.

[–] SoupOfTheDay@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Are you saying ravioli is not a dumpling?

I am joining you in the tamales are a pie camp though.

[–] HatchetHaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

cereal is soup and i will fight anyone on this

[–] metostopholes@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd say a tamale is a dumpling.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

nixtamalized corn dumpling: this is proper and you are righteous

[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

"Sometimes a tamale is just a tamale" - Sigmund Freud Probably

[–] SoupOfTheDay@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

And sometimes you just really want to fuck good tamale… I mean mother.. I mean calzone!

[–] 4am@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

A tamale is a pop tart, obviously

[–] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] ohmyiv@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That rule is all kinds of disturbing lol

Turduckens should be sushi or calzone, not salad.

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[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

closer to a pie, as pies as have filling.

noodles don't have filling

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

what is ravioli? And, is ravioli a dumpling?

[–] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

David Chang argues that ravioli are dumplings on Ugly Delicious.

I’m inclined to agree in that dumplings and ravioli are the same general idea implemented by different culinary traditions.

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I would say ravioli is not a noodle, and could be called a dumpling, yes.

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (7 children)

A tamale is most definitely corn bread

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[–] jerrimu@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I mean kinda? We need to decide how a noodle and a dumpling differ.

[–] jclinares@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As a Mexican, I am very disturbed by this question. It's not stupid (that doesn't exist in this community), it's just disturbing xD

No, a tamale is not a noodle. Noodles don't have fillings, are longer, and thinner. It's like asking if ravioli is a noodle.

[–] 1024_Kibibytes@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As someone from the U.S. who grew up eating Mexican food in Texas, I agree. It is disturbing. The filling is very important to a tamal. They aren't bendy or thin either. Noodles are thin and bendy

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

i am new mexico af and i respect your carne guisada, but really. NM food kills it. Please come over to Santa Fe and check out green chile Carne Adovada. "Texas" lol

[–] jargoggles@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

A tamale is a ravioli, confirmed.

[–] Helpful_Cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago
[–] riley@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No. The point of noodles is that they hold their form without any help when you cook them. Without their leafy containers, tamales would be more like polenta/corn meal mush--also yummy but not noodly.
https://prnt.sc/4atIxUL1D90X R-amen.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Seems like a somewhat arbitrary requirement.

[–] riley@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Not, say, if you want to make cacio e pepe. (I'm a new reddit refugee, so I haven't figured out how to respond to a comment.)

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