MudMan

I guess if that's how democracy reads in the US it explains a lot to how smoothly this whole process is going for the fascists. Good luck with that.

I guess people jumping to unfounded conspiratorial conclusions while accusing the plebs of being the cause of all ills doesn't sit well with me these days.

I wonder why that'd be.

Americans aren't a "minority".

Well, if they move here they are, I suppose, and then it's whatever. Just like Russian political refugees seeking asylum I have no problem managing that securely. They have all my empathy. That's more deference than America will give anybody else.

As citizens of a hostile country participating in its hostility, it is what it is.

It really, really doesn't.

Yes, that's what the word "agree" means.

This is an amazing conversation.

Well, too late.

You aren't trying to influence anybody. You are in the middle of a slow moving coup with next to zero institutional leverage because you botched the elections¡ so bad.

It's not on the Dems anymore, the US electorate made very sure that was the case. Anybody unsatisfied with the milquetoast liberal's resistance manual should be out on the streets flipping cars and enforcing a general strike, not whining online about how powerless dems are powerless. After the millionth time democrats don't call for those emergency actions it stops being their fault that the rest of the country is sitting and waiting for them to organize street-level opposition.

Ugh. Crap. This is what happens when you engage with American politics. I'm out for the sake of my general mental health. You guys figure it out. Wake me up when you've approved a new Constitution or the tanks are landing in Greenland.

Man, I am as frustrated with Nvidia as anybody, but that type of vaguely-informed ranting really makes me go on the defensive.

For one thing, the dumb gatekeeping at the end is absurd. I've been building PCs since the early 90s, there are more informed users now than there have ever been, by far. And those that aren't regurgitate whatever they hear on Youtube from tech influencers anyway. Fortnite casuals aren't what's keeping you from owning a 5090, friend.

Speaking of uninformed users regurgitating half-understood Youtube talking points, Nvidia certainly wasn't going to ship 5090s with a single damaged ROP unit as 5080s, those two cards are built on entirely different dies. It's very likely that they'll have some 5080SuperTi thing coming out eventually perhaps built on cut down GB202 instead of the GB203 in the base model, but it'd certainly not be cutting down an ROP and leaving everything else the same. That's not even the 5090D spec. Plus Nvidia confirms other cards in the 50 series are also affected.

More importantly, neither of us knows how these made it to market. There's certainly at the very least some lax QA, and I'm sure there was pressure to get as many of the very limited 5090s to retail as possible, but crappy as the 50 series is in many areas I genuinely doubt Nvidia would be so dumb as to deliberately putting chips with this very specific, very consistent fault in the pipes hoping nobody would notice a performance drop and peek at GPU-Z even once. That's not how this works. I'd love to know what actually happened to cause this, though.

So yes, the 40 and 50 series are named one step too high on the stack. Yes, the pricing increases have been wild, and it's frustrating that demand is high enough to support it and regulators aren't stepping in to moderate the MSRP mishandling. Yes, Nvidia mismanaged the 50 series launch in multiple ways, from bad connector design to rushing the 5090 to misleading marketing on frame generation and probably underbaked drivers. That doesn't mean every issue is the same issue, and it certainly doesn't mean that a lack of "knowledgeable users" is to blame.

Sorry, I misspoke. I meant it's weird to complain that it's like other search engines because it shows ads if you're deliberately enabling the ads to support them.

Yeah, I had given it a try a while back, I forget why I stopped. It seems like they fixed some of the annoyances I remembere maybe I'll give it another go.

For those not clicking through and reading all the way to the bottom:

More cards are apparently affected, they say Nvidia acknowledged the issue, is telling them that users can get a replacement from the manufacturer and that they've addressed the root cause for future units.

Because that's what social media generates and all social media was a mistake.