My god this is an outrage, I was going to eat that mummy! Fry has got to go!
TheFogan
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I mean, maybe a de-escalation, but also rife for it's own forms of abuse.
IE... someone wants to spread misinformation... they block anyone fact checking or disproving their nonsense.
Now I fully agree, the misinformation rabbitholes have diminishing returns the longer the thread and arguement goes on.
IE lets say
Misinformer, posts blatent lie.
Person1: Rebuts lie, Includes multiple credible sources for the rebuttle.
Misinformer: Claims all true sources are in a conspiracy or agenda.
Person1: argues back
At this point it's just wasting everyones time... but IMO the initial fact check is important for people approaching.
So in the lemmy method.
Person 1 can debunk the claim. Block the person... leave it up to others if they actually want to bother engaging etc...
Sounds to me like the threads method on the other hand.... Fake claimer can go... and either whack a mole block comments that disagree... or shut off discussion altogether leaving the claim unchecked. To me that seems a bigger problem. Fact is there's a lot of falsehoods that sound convincing to the general public, but are easilly disprovable with a bit of research, and IMO they need to be challanged where the claims are made.
I mean, I some reason get unreasonably annoyed by the idea that people tie the dog meme into the organization musk chose to use it for. Musks shitty plans... are musk related, blame paypal, or emerald buyers or something else... if the doge meme never existed we'd be dealing with the same shit... just under a different name.
Like the Nazi coopted a tiny puppy.
I mean... the last major nazi takeover co-opted a symbol of good fortune, that seems to go back 4000-12000 years.
whatever we post is public... you can't stop someone from seeing public things. (Even if it worked the way you would like, they could browse anonymously or on a different account to see it). Blocking makes it convenient for you (so you don't have to look at public things that you don't want to see).
obviously democrats, the point is the democrats are working to minimize, the better of their own... and prop up their worse members, and burry their best communicators.
The plan of democrats:
"Try to win the good billionares"
"throw trans people under the bus"
"shift further to the right"
"Focus on trumps moral character failings, don't let policy distract you"
"Make sure to keep the progressives quiet, we can't have the AOCs getting the jobs of life long do nothing democrats.
had the native american's been smart enough to build a wall across the ocean... none of this mess would have happened.
I can't find the original article, but a lot of places reported on it in 2013
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/12/06/newser-mcdonalds-fast-food-protest/3890393/
I love this classic steven fry bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzfCtGFgRSk
In short he accidentally stumbled into a mormon tour, and they explained that in the afterlife you get together with all of your family members forever, he raises his hand and asks "but where do you go if you were good?"
I mean unless there's a primary, it's still the better vote. It's the hellhole we live in... We have to go with the guy who says he's going to do good things, then disappoints us and does less than half the good he said, and adds in some bad things.
Or we can go with the guy who says he's going to do horrific things... and then meets and exceeds all his promises.
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I think there's the problem though, so Alice posts it on her page.
Now there's 2 ways people will see it... Either the algorythm is looking. So that's a popularity contest, assuming the algorythm is going based on engagement etc... Which unfortunately I have to say, historically BS tends to gather larger crowds than popular ones.
More importantly if we are talking algorythms they tend to push people towards the type of content they regularly consume. IE the algorythm is going to push people who are suceptible to BS (Some of which may be the ones who are suceptible, but not so far gone as to be immune to truth) to Mallory's page. Meanwhile alice's page will be drawing the skeptics, the ones who would like to push back against it... but can't. I see the mallory page like the /r/conservative subreddit. A fucking cespool, and most importantly very very determined to push out any views that disturb the narrative... yet with about 10x the views as any specifically left subreddits I can find (though admitted only 1/8th of general politics, which is still leftish by US standards.