ThePenitentOne

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[–] ThePenitentOne@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People get mad when they have a problem and you provide a solution they can feasibly take part in. As soon as they have any agency/capability to take responsibility suddenly they are unable to.

[–] ThePenitentOne@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People don't want to learn or debate anything. They form an opinion and from that point on stop giving a shit. It's no surprise things end up like this. Too many people are seriously close-minded and ignorant about things, yet their opinion is allowed to equally weighted to another who has put serious effort and thought into their decision. The way of thinking at large is just wrong. People are very short-sighted and easily fall for appeals to emotion instead of taking a second to think rationally. Voting Tory is reprehensible.

All you need to know is most people don't give a shit about anything not directly threatening their way of life in immediate terms. Once you understand how pathetic people are, it becomes all the more obvious why things are allowed to be this way and not change. A lot of people don't even care to put in the effort to learn or expand their knowledge of things at all.

They are self-aware, willing to change and learn, and have a rational, logical view of things. It's rare to meet people like that, but they are by far the best people. Someone's philosophy on life is probably the best descriptor of a person.

[–] ThePenitentOne@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Problem is, a lot of people don't have a lot of money because of how the world has been allowed to go. Everything is funnelled towards the worst people who go unpunished somehow. There needs to be an uprising or something.

[–] ThePenitentOne@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

'You are younger than me and therefore know nothing.' Can't argue with that there.

[–] ThePenitentOne@discuss.online 5 points 1 year ago (10 children)

What is the metric for fairness here? And what version of 'capitalism' are we talking about?

Both. Most people who eat meat would say animal abuse is wrong, all while ignoring their own contribution. A lack of intellectual honesty and logical consistency that leads to moral problems is also anti-intellectual. They would say slavery is wrong because it is prejudice, and unjust for 'xyz' reasons, while also saying 'xyz' reasons aren't good enough to change their mind away from eating meat.

[–] ThePenitentOne@discuss.online 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you mean to say? People should be allowed to escape from war always. But there are reasons you can just go live or stay anywhere.

[–] ThePenitentOne@discuss.online -3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, there are reasons to be anti-religion and even potentially anti-immigrant, those issues have actual logically and morally consistent reasons. Whereas racism and the others are entirely emotional and based on nothing. Religion is belief literally founded on nothing.

All forms of prejudicial arguments are wrong. Just don't talk about speciesism though, because most people will lose their shit 10x harder.

I've only found people who say really stupid shit get completely downvoted to the floor on Lemmy and there are almost always extensive responses. Anecdotes aren't the best evidence, I guess my experience was very different.

However, at least you can actually see if people upvoted or downvoted and not just the total, so people are less inclined to just hop the train straight away. Depends largely on the instance though. I'm pretty sure Hexbears can't even downvote.

 

One of the most aggravating things to me in this world has to be the absolutely rampant anti-intellectualism that dominates so many conversations and debates, and its influence just seems to be expanding. Do you think there will ever actually be a time when this ends? I'd hope so once people become more educated and cultural changes eventually happen, but as of now it honestly infuriates me like few things ever have.

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