deaf_fish

Are you trolling me? Do you really believe what you just posted?

Why not just meme all republicans like to eat babies? I am sure that will confuse a lot of them and that confusion will uhh, be really funny I guess, and that funny will uhh, improve the situation somehow?

You're being ridiculous.

Do you talk with many feminists? Because it sounds like you have confused reality with a conservative straw man of feminists.

Ok, so there are two kinds of idiots.

1. The idiot who actually doesn't know any better. They are just following the misinformation wherever it goes because their friend on face book said it and they trust them or something like that. Unironically the bacteria is crunchy and good for you and the bad things aren't real.
2. The person you are talking about. The person who knows it is bad and knows what they are doing.

There are only a few 2s, most are 1s. Like 1 "2" for every 100000 "1".

2s, as you have stated, don't care. They know. They know their arguments are dumb and a misdirection. They will not engage with this meme, because they know what they are doing and they know it is wrong and they know that engaging with this will just out them and expose their bad takes.

Even if you get rid of all the 2s, 1s will self perpetuate. So you really should target the 1s.

The 1s are not aware of all of this 6d chess going on. So if you show them this meme, they are going to be confused because they have no problem with refrigeration and they are going to be mad because you are implying that they are dumb and you are not addressing their concerns. So they ignore us and don't learn anything and we look like idiots. This is what the 2s want.

The thing is, pasteurization is an easy win for us. No need to overcomplicate it. Just tell the 1s and 2s the truth. Otherwise we end up looking like we don't have an argument by making up positions they don't have. If the 2s pipe up, we have the data and "It's your life, if you want to risk getting deadly diseases tuberculosis, brucellosis, and E. coli, that is your choice". If they go farther you can just say they are in a death cult, it's easily winnable even if you are an ok debater.

Honestly the 1s are looking at this meme and must think it is some other group that is being targeted because they have no problems with refrigeration so this post is like 99% of people who agree with each other patting each other on the back. Fun, but not productive.

If you were prettier people would like your comment.

This feels like a straw man. I don't remember them making any arguments against using a refrigerator.

I mean fuck them, but fuck them on topic otherwise we are just huffing out own smug cloud and that doesn't convince anyone.

I don't. When I say social change I'm more talking about like social thinking that individuals are the problem. Sorry if that was not clear.

That’s not really what the meme is saying.

I know, that is why I said "I’ve changed from the meme to:"

Yeah, it's different. I think the machine on the left is an infinite energy machine. Those will never work.

The machine on the right is a carbon capture machine which does work. But not well enough. Are fast enough to solve any of the problems that we have.

I'm fine with playing around with a carbon capture machine and seeing if we can improve it, but I would never want to rely solely on it.

I want to try a thousand solutions to the global warming problem. Including societal and government changes. Cuz you know otherwise we all die.

I've changed from the meme to: if I'm going to live I want to live. Not have to do a bazillion things in order to survive another day. So if I fail to do something that keeps me alive, I accept the risk of possibly dying.

The way I think of it is as follows: if you like the idea of socialism or communism, and you think the only way to get there is to have an authoritative leader "clean house" before they for some reason or another decide to give the power back to the people, then you are a tankie.

In my opinion, an authoritative leader will never give up power back to the people willingly. Or if an authoritative gets in charge, it will never dismantle systems like capitalism because capitalists give authoritative people power.

Another good hint is if they really like the idea of murdering billionaires even if there are less violent solutions to it. I'm not saying that there are currently less violent solutions. I'm just saying they will never go out of their way for less violent solutions. As if they like the idea of murder a lot.

What's that line from the show Good Omens?

Don't think of it as dying, think of it as beating the rush.

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