fuklu

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[–] fuklu@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, agreed. I don’t think purism in either direction is great. To me well regulated capitalism with strong unions seems like a good balance.

[–] fuklu@lemmy.fmhy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

Actually from people who lived through it in the eastern bloc… the propaganda was mostly right.

[–] fuklu@lemmy.fmhy.ml -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Relatively speaking, I’d say yes.

The communist systems I’m aware of have failed hard on these due to not having built in outlets for negative human characteristics.

[–] fuklu@lemmy.fmhy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

In theory, sure, but it’s a very brittle system if it requires true Democracy, which is pretty much fantasy.

[–] fuklu@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Thanks for the thought provoking reply!

My impression is that all systems fail long term and need to break down and be renewed after crisis. Once it becomes entrenched, I think odds are heavily against being able to try social systems.

Have you seen a system like you describe, where a structure to continue change and experimentation is built in? To me capitalism with strong controls seems the most stable and successful (assuming your benchmark is population qualify of life not just GDP), e.g. some European systems.

[–] fuklu@lemmy.fmhy.ml 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That’s cool to know! I had been wondering what happened with that historically bad launch.

[–] fuklu@lemmy.fmhy.ml 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

You responded to the wrong comment, but i’ve been seeing that a lot so I wonder what causes it.

[–] fuklu@lemmy.fmhy.ml 29 points 2 years ago

Pfew, well that actually makes sense and is efficient. Picking it up off the floor probably is not worth the bending over luckily.

[–] fuklu@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hah, is this contracting? And what is done vs agile?

[–] fuklu@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Thank you for posting a nuanced comment on this topic.

Elon Musk strikes me a lot like Steve Jobs, a micromanager that is terrible to work for but gets shit done. Seeing him flail around with twitter definitely makes me question how he was successful with Tesla. He isn’t afraid to take risks, but I wonder what or who was able to counter balance him at Tesla to make that more successful. Maybe his ego was just not as big then.

[–] fuklu@lemmy.fmhy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

I’m sad to see that group think is alive and well on lemmy, like on reddit, maybe even worse on some topics. On Elon Musk people just upvote hate and downvote anything that may even superficially seem counter to it. I wish downvoting was disabled so people can’t just mash it angrily but need to think more.

People write that lemmy is full of “tankies”, which seems at least partially true to me? So dishonest right wing rich people get extra hate? I’m trying to get a feel for the community and was hoping it would be less emotional and tribal.

[–] fuklu@lemmy.fmhy.ml 32 points 2 years ago (36 children)

It’s not a bug that capitalism is based on greed, it’s a feature. It works (relatively speaking) because it leverages humanity’s shittyness.

Communism has failed to operate without corruption or authoritarianism, because it depends on people actually giving a shit about each other long term.

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