in4apenny

There is no fate but what we make for ourselves.

It's less about being ready to commit violence, and more like willing to die or lose all my freedoms for my beliefs. Tried doing things the peaceful, in-the-system way, working charities for blind people, deaf children, as well as various environmental causes. Got pretty high up in all of them, high up enough to learn that every roadblock to getting people medical aid, more blind people-friendly infastructure, cochlear implants for children, or utilizing cutting edge alternatives to oil and plastic using fruit waste and algae, every time it's the millionaire/billionaire investor class that can't see any profit incentive to helping people. I show up to pitifully occupy sidewalks regularly, I even take off work and take the financial hit if there are any demonstrations in my area. In August during the pogroms in the UK, I helped protect a mosque and got bricks thrown at me, hurt like a mofo but i'd take a million more. Helped nice young college girls get medical after getting bricks hurled at the heads and faces by fascists, meanwhile the cops did nothing but stand with their backs faced to the brick throwers, watching us get pelted with bricks and fireworks. None of this makes me even close to as radicalized as the fact that humans produce 3x the calories to feed every person on the planet yet we still charge money for food, and while there's all these problems that need resources there's $36 TRILLION sitting in offshore tax havens (as of 2016 according to the IMF).

I'm not willing to do violence, i'm willing to do anything even risk my life to stop them. I'd rather be smiling in front of a firing squad than peacefully obeying a soldier at gunpoint as he marches me to the camps. Perhaps you're just not that guy.

Not necessarily. Pretty sure when America is divided into civil war, you bet there will be Spetznaz training local insurgency to help facilitate weapons and instability in the region. You know, like what America did to Russia's borders (the middle east). Some would argue that's already happening, what with all the Russian money flowing in the West (people in finance call London 'Londongrad' because there's so much Russian money) into things like the NRA and donations to red or blue politicians in elections. The Russians literally wrote down their playbook in 'Foundations of Geopolitics' and they've been following the recipe to a T with great success. No need for any massive invasions or unconventional weapons, just keep sending weapons and special forces training from Russia to Ya'll Qaeda and BBQ Haram and America will be a hollow shell of it's former self.

There's no Red Army to save us this time.

All they need is donkeys and wounded people to take on the West. Hell, in Iraq there were multi-million$ US tanks being blown to pieces by $30 IED's. Both US and Russia were beat in Afghanistan against goats and tunnels. Not trying to say that Russia is doing fine (they're not) but their technology or lack-thereof is less a sign of weakness and more of a flex. It's almost as if Russia is saving the good stuff for somewhere else, like a geopolitical rival they've had for over 100 years, who are currently destabilized and divided done by the help of Russian disinformation tactics and their own assets in that rivals government, you know...

I wonder what Putin has on Trump. Pee tape or P-Tape?

Only to protect the interests of capital though. If you're a popular black guy talking about economic distribution then you're cooked, but increasing the wealth from the middle-class to the rich and killing the opposition is what the CIA is for.

Gonna need to do a lot more than just punching pussy-ass fascists. Why don't you go ahead and peacefully occupy a sidewalk that Nazi oligarchs never walk on, or maybe do an interpretive dance while you're at it. If you think the rise of fascism can be stopped with punching pussy-ass fascists then you're clearly not taking the situation seriously enough. Where's your gun?

Could you kill baby Hitler?

I've always wondered why so many people peacefully marched into the trains, trucks, and death camps, then I see the sheer amount of people like you who say that and remember why. Maybe it's a personality thing, some of us who are faced with annihalation vs annihalation with a fight, we choose the latter. Most people will just take annihalation peacefully out of fear or laziness.

Nah I think peacefully occupying a sidewalk that oligarchs never walk on or care about even maintaining is the best idea, we should keep doing that for 40 more years, that'll work!

Me too, and in my 17 years of living there many people were trying to tell them what was happening, but their "American Exceptionalism" and "I don't care about politics" or "I'd rather just work on myself" mentality they used to ignore the writing on the walls makes me feel for them a lot less. If anything it makes me more afraid for them than ever now that it's gotten this bad and there's still nothing close to the 1960's in terms of leftist movements. It's just hard to organize in a country that's willing to drop bombs on Philadelphia in 1985 when people start organizing.

But then I remember how okay Americans are with all this, and that in reality all along they've been a fascist country that has wanted and practiced fascist ideals for a long long time now. I remember what Americans do to people that try to help - not just kill them, but worst of all ignore them afterwards. A big part of me thinks America needs to go through an unspeakable horror of their own making, otherwise they can never wake up. And you can bet that Russia and China will rush in to give weapons to both sides of the next American conflict (one could argue they already are.)