Chesterton's ~~Fence~~ Speed Limited Zone
this post was submitted on 23 Jun 2025
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Conservatives won the last election in Berlin in case you were wondering.
Let's bring back CFCs. The ozone layer has recovered, so it's fine.
Don't give them ideas, they already want to bring back asbestos.
It hasnt it will take another 60 years to fully recover
ozone recovers
but the planet is now too warm to live
You know who won't be around to give a shit when it does...?
Shit, I laughed out loud here. This is some The Onion shit
If the Onion is not out of business yet, it will be soon. Reality is more ridiculous than what they can come up with...
Yep sounds absurd. As I unterstand it the problem is that you need a reason for 30 km/h zones. The reason was the air quality which is now better so there is no reason anymore. Some zones may be kept because the streets are used by school kids.
I think this is still absurd and good 30 km/h zones with synced traffic lights can yield a good traffic flow.
The air is better, but if we keep not ruining it, it will be too good.
Then the lungs of our children will grow weak.
The children will not be ready for the mines then.
Exactly! They shall be as coal and as bellows in our furnaces!
You dont get it, bad air quality creates strong lungs, strong lungs creates good air quality, good air quality creates weak lungs, weak lungs create bad air quality. /s
The fact that they have improved air quality is not sufficient reason? Do they think air quality is like painting a house, that it only has to be done every couple of years?
They have a new conservative government in Berlin which wants to end "the war against cars" and rolls every progress back. They also remove bike lanes "because they cost parking spaces"
It doesn't make sense, they are conservatives after all
I can't speak to Germany specifically, but a lot of people don't think very much at all. They feel things, and make up words to justify their feelings. (We all do this to some extent, but for some people it seems like that's the only process running)
Welcome to Germany, land of the pedantry-industrial complex.
I am totaly with you on that. That fact that those zones did improve the air quality would be a reason for me to keep them.
So i guess you just want children to grow up with their lungs being coddled?
You want a whole generation to be weak?
I think you are missunderstanding me. I am totally for 30 km/h zones! What I said above is a official rule for where you can establish 30 km/h zones.
Is it a dumb rule: yes!
Clean air makes weak men. Asthma is strength.
I think the OP was being facetious.
It's Germany, if air quality is not in the pre-approved list of reasons, then it's not acceptable.
But don't worry, once they repair the fax machine they can start processing the request to update the list. In about 7 years it'll be done. Well unless the administration is voted out then the new one might forget about it.
If you improve it too much, the lungs of the people will become weak.
That is the reason they used to create them, but municipalities do have the right to create 30km/h zones in any residential area they choose, as long as it is not a major road.
motonormativity
I like the new slur!
I had to read that a few times to understand it :)
I'm lost... Can you ELI5?
Wasn't the word motonormativity from you? I had to re-read that word a few times to get what you were saying with it and it's good.
sunzu2 called it a slur, and a good one at that.
I wish I was that clever, but no. It's from a researcher named Ian Walker, coined in a very interesting article. It has its own Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motonormativity
Also mainstream articles: https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/31/23579510/car-brain-motornormativity-study-ian-walker
And a video by GCN! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_4GZnGl55c
I'm surprised that by being in the fuck cars community you never heard the term!
Can't wait for these useless assholes to be voted out next year
Good luck with that...