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The absurdity of the proposal is already in the title, and shows how motonormativity is spread all over the world.

Berlin has a very good public transit system, and a few 30 km/h zones cannot be that bad.

I would love to hear opinions from someone who lives there!

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[–] mcv@lemm.ee 30 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

The fact that they have improved air quality is not sufficient reason? Do they think air quality is like painting a house, that it only has to be done every couple of years?

[–] albert180@piefed.social 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

They have a new conservative government in Berlin which wants to end "the war against cars" and rolls every progress back. They also remove bike lanes "because they cost parking spaces"

It doesn't make sense, they are conservatives after all

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 28 points 17 hours ago

I can't speak to Germany specifically, but a lot of people don't think very much at all. They feel things, and make up words to justify their feelings. (We all do this to some extent, but for some people it seems like that's the only process running)

[–] declaredreprimand@piefed.social 13 points 19 hours ago

Welcome to Germany, land of the pedantry-industrial complex.

[–] Ekpu@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I am totaly with you on that. That fact that those zones did improve the air quality would be a reason for me to keep them.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

So i guess you just want children to grow up with their lungs being coddled?

You want a whole generation to be weak?

[–] Ekpu@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

I think you are missunderstanding me. I am totally for 30 km/h zones! What I said above is a official rule for where you can establish 30 km/h zones.

Is it a dumb rule: yes!

Clean air makes weak men. Asthma is strength.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

I think the OP was being facetious.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 2 points 17 hours ago

It's Germany, if air quality is not in the pre-approved list of reasons, then it's not acceptable.

But don't worry, once they repair the fax machine they can start processing the request to update the list. In about 7 years it'll be done. Well unless the administration is voted out then the new one might forget about it.

If you improve it too much, the lungs of the people will become weak.