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We probably have our political differences but I'm glad you see the failures of "centrist opposition". Well said.

Centrism in the political landscape of America is nothing more than a support of a right-wing policy shift.

If you were explaining quantum mechanics you'd probably start with the fundamentals of understanding momentum and position.

It's funny you make an analogy like that. Because you're completely ignoring both the position that the Democratic party is in AND the momentum they have in driving discourse.

Do I have to explain it to you?! Do you think the comparison between "online leftist" and the Democratic party is in the same "quantum level"? (Yes I'm stretching the satire here it's a joke don't take it too seriously.)

But seriously, it's not about "guilty parties" it's about the degree in which they are able to influence the political landscape.

You are critizing the smallest sliver of the nearly non existing left in order to avoid criticism of the only party that had any chance of preventing the rise of fascism we are experiencing now.

And that party did absolutely fuck all to prevent it. So, please. Explain to me you're "enlightened centrist" take on why the failure of the Democratic party and it's outright genocide were the fault of the "online left".

I'd really love that physics lecture.

Why is the blame placed on individuals that would be lucky if they made up more than 1% of the population that makes up the "online leftist"?

Seriously. How is the only opposition party not the one that decided they would "play chicken"? You blame people for playing "chicken" but ignore the actual political party with money and organization that clearly decided to play chicken themselves. Hell, they're the ones that literally decided to play that game.

Somehow the criticism and blame is placed on unorganized "online leftist".

It wasn't the online left. It was the vast majority of normies that thought about their vote for all of 30 seconds and said : "Yeah, I don't like all the dead babies I keep hearing about. I'll stay home or vote Trump i guess"

Stop pretending it's some cringe online leftist. You're delusional.

Yeah. That's bull shit. I don't know why people like to pretend that there were not massive amounts of the population that saw slavery as immoral and cruel.

Hell, they literally had to invent "whiteness and blackness" as racial constructs to justify continuing to enslave the African slaves that converted to Christianity. Suddenly their rules in place about not enslaving other Christians needed a workaround written into them.

These were not "moral for their time" people in any sense of the word.

Edit: I don't know if you were actually making this point or just saying that quote. So sorry if this came out hostile.

One of the most disappointing things is seeing how excited libs are for some "abundance" policy. Like, they see the rise of fascism and maga voters regretting their choice and think to themselves "what if we did MORE neoliberalism?!"

I can't believe they can fall for the same vague promises with zero policy over and over and still think the maga voters are the only dumb ones.

I mean the comment they replied to is literally downplaying the involvement of other pedophiles just as involved as Trump was. It doesn't matter if it's using sarcasm to do it or not. That's the intention.

The entire point people should get out of this is that defending rich pedophiles (much like defending Israel) is a bipartisan issue that both parties will always agree on. Do they spin it differently. Sure. But come the fuck on.

The person doing "whataboutism" is the person that made the initial sarcastic comment. Literally bringing up other sex pests for the exact same reason their comment is making fun of. To compare the sex pests between parties and downplay their involvement by comparison.

You can't say "whataboutism" when the literal comment your replying to was responding to and criticizing a "whataboutism" in the first place.

I mean. It's all of them. The entire reason this is being suppressed is because it's touches all of our ruling class. Trump is the only one dumb enough to think he could get away with using it to his advantage without consequences. And, honestly, he probably won't see consequences anyway. So, maybe he's actually the smart one. At least in terms of fooling American idiots and getting elected.

He's right. He doesn't need them now. So he's doubling down on those that will follow him literally anywhere. And those are the people he'll call on for another January 6th.

The funny thing is that we are only here BECAUSE they played the Epstein card so early. They could have literally not released anything about it and most of their base would have probably been ok.

They promised a lot and then did a 180. Made them really suspicious.

Absolutely. Which is why it's so hard to get upset at them. I appreciate the gesture. But unfortunately we live in a world of cars. A nice gesture can quickly end with someone getting hurt.

Like, there is no world in which these nice polite gestures between bikes or pedestrians would ever have such high stakes. But sadly cars make it impossible.

That's what it sounded like. A similar situation to what happens on the 405 here.

But absolutely insane people do it when traffic is actually moving. I understand the "my exit is 300 ft away and we're all stuck". Understand it, but would still not be that guy.

Absolutely mind boggling people do this when traffic is moving.

This reminds me "nice" cars that do stupid shit because they see a biker. I just want cars to be predictable. I don't want them to be nice.

I can't stand the "oh I'll stop for you when I'm not supposed to at this 2 way stop" cars.

Like, dude. This doesn't help me. I have to wait and make sure the the car coming up behind you also stops and doesn't just pass you because you're being stupid.

And then now there is a car coming the other way and they aren't stopping (because they don't actually have a stop sign).

Can you just drive safe and predictable? I literally WANT to wait here until there are NO cars. Not 3-4 cars I now have to hope stop and don't kill me.

When people do this I literally just get off my bike now to make it obvious I don't want their "help". I've had too many times where people doing this have put me in danger. I have eyes. I want to wait until it's clear.