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Unfortunately, Fascism won because it's controlling our country. Pointing to fascist and calling them out for cheating will not make fascist stop being fascist.

I'll be honest, I haven't looked into the election stuff much because I see it as an effort that goes nowhere. Even if I think it very likely.

Like, we're black bagging people and shipping them to foreign countrys prisons. Like, if we can't rally people around resistance to that then how are we going to make people care about election results in a system most people feel like has never worked in the first place?

Fascism is here BECAUSE this "democracys" structures are meant to serve the wealthy and ruling class. That's how they were written since this nations foundation. This time it was just in your face so plainly because they realized they dont need to pretend anymore.

The people of this country don't need election investigations to understand that the system is not democratic. They've felt that their entire lives in some way or another.

Trump made the ruling class of America realize they didn't have to keep pretending the systems were democratic. Literally spitting on the ballots is not what brought us here. Its just the point we finally reached.

It's intentional. The same reason that headlines say IDF troops are "murdered" but Palestinian children "die". It's the use of language to manufacture consent.

To you and I it's probably become painfully obvious when reading headlines. It even, unfortunately, plagues good journalist in non-independent media who have their titles changed before publishing. So much so that you'll have actual substance of the article explaining the opposite of which the title implies.

But, it obviously works on the population at large even if they aren't really fooled by it. Sometimes all you need is to pacify the outrage of a population enough. I think that's what their trying to do with Maxwell. I don't think they're stupid enough to even believe the MAGA voters will fall for this narrative. (Some will, but those are primarily those with cult brain rot or more importantly financial incentives to exploit the cult brain rot).

I think they are absolutely unafraid of any popular resistance. These people are protecting pedophiles for Christ's sake.

I use to keep thinking that each new steel beam will be the one that breaks the camels back. But I've been thinking that for too long now.

Adorable

Absolutely. Sorry, I'm so close to this that I just forgot to explain. These are the things my coworkers and comrades got fired for speaking out against.

I would appreciate it you reread the first quote and the response you have in your above comment.

You quoted me explaining that supporters of fascist AREN'T all aware or even intend to support racial supremacists. Then told me, in not so few words, "I can't be supporting fascist. I'm not not a racial supremacists".

Can you see how you're ignoring what I'm talking about and the point I'm making? If you can acknowledge that I'll respond to the rest of your comment if you still want. But you opened your comment basically telling me that you are ignoring what I said.

Supports a genocide too. I don't know if I count in that 9000 statistic. But a lot of us have been fired for speaking out against it too. Fuck Microsoft.

They literally went as far as restricting emails with the word "Palestine" in them. Would take sometimes hours to arrive or not at all. Anyone that spoke out had their entire profile wiped within hours of being fired. This is the equivalent of a Facebook social media profile. You can go back a really long time and see past employees profiles and posts. Not when you get fired for pointing out a genocide though.

They are actively supporting and enabling a genocide; and may history judge it's leadership.

Do you think fascist think they are bad guys? No, they justify their material actions in the same way you are. Most supporters of fascism aren't going to think "I'm doing this for the white race". No, they justify the same material actions through other means. And people like you fall for it. They do this until their support and power is so strong they can claim their true beliefs.

When you say things like "caring capacity of the planet". Like, that's actually a realistic threat. I'm going to call it out for what it is. Just absolute pseudo science and anti-human shit.

Dude, the planet is going to become inhospital in most places for human life within the next century or two. Any talk about population is a mask for fascist to decide which people are allowed to live in hospitable places. And who they decide will die. You're falling for some really dumb shit pretending to be scientific when looked at in a vacuum.

Eco-fascist stand their as a solution to the "hard truths" of climate change. Masking themselves as scientific and reasonable. They are not offering solutions for humanity. They are offering solutions for who they view as human and "leser than". But they're not gonna say that. They're gonna say the same thing you are saying.

I understand you likely don't believe in eco-fascist goals of eugenics. But that doesn't mean you aren't using their exact same playbook in what you are saying.

Even if your falsehoods were correct. They are meaningless unless your material goal is fascism and deciding which groups of people are allowed to have children (and really that just means which groups are allowed to live). Seriously. Follow this to its logical conclusion. You are verbatim using eco-fascist talking points.

There is not a gray area here. The intentions will not save people from the material events that will unfold to suppress a groups population.

They don't make up their talking points to convince other white supremacists. They make up their talking points to fool people like you into believing they are "hard truths".

If you find yourself often being called "fascist" and think "all these leftist just call everyone a Nazi". Then I hope you come to the realization that what people are saying is that you are repeating fascist talking points.

Fascist don't care if you believe in their race supremacy. They just care that you are just convinced enough to believe enough of their truths to not stop them.

I think you'd benefit from from listening to this short video.

https://youtu.be/0YFdwfNh5vs

Listen and maybe try to understand why the people that support "strong borders" aren't exactly the same as you supporting "hard truths of population". These are the same fascist goals. They are flexible in their lies and fooling you in the same way they fooled those idiots saying "build that wall".

Eco fascism is just the version of fascism meant to bring well intentioned liberals to support their ideology.

I'll assume that's a joke. I will in good faith hope someone isn't actually as stupid to believe that. But this thread has sucked all the humor out of me. So forgive me.

Does this type of conversation not exhaust you? Like, clearly I clarified that I had no intention to target the commenter in my initial comment. Can that not just be a misunderstanding on your part or a clarity problem in the comment on my part?

Like, you've had the purpose of the comment clarified to you. The point was to explain why I was concerned with the language.

And now you're here taking screenshots and highlighting something I am not denying I wrote. I am explaining to you the intention behind the word I wrote.

Ironically, not offering me the same charity I offered to the initial comment when I ask for them to clarify what they meant. You could have been an adult and done that. But here we are.

I swear "debate lord" culture has rotten the brains of a generation. This isn't a YouTube click bait video my friend.

There is no audience for our conversation even. No one would bother reading this deep besides you and me.

You are allowed to say your initial response was in bad faith (it was) and I'm allowed to say that I should have made my initial comment more clear (it could have been better).

But at this point you're talking to one person (me) and trying to convince them they meant something they didn't. That sounds exhausting. I know what I meant and what the intention of my comment was. I was the one who wrote it.

You called human-beings a virus. An ad-hominem is when you insult someone in order to not address their argument. Pointing out your language of calling humans "viruses" to be fascist is not ad-hominem. It's directly addressing the language you used.

If you're gonna point to logical fallacies you might want to know what they actually mean.

Now. I could have misunderstood what you meant. You were not really clear. But that language is literally eco-fascist.

Maybe Google their talking points. Because you're repeating them even if you don't intend to.

I can't tell which is worse; your reading comprehension or the irony of you saying I'm the one jumping to conclusions.

Maybe reread the initial comment I made. I asked for clarification on what they meant because I DIDN'T jump to conclusions. Then I clarified why I was asking because that language around "population" is often used by white supremacists.

I never accused that comment of such things and they followed it up with a clarification. We had an adult conversation and didn't make a childish comment like you did.

Maybe go read it. Because it seems like you might need an example of how to actually communicate with people around sensitive subjects without just straw manning what someone is asking and saying.

You can misunderstand my comment. That's fine. That can happen. But you're doubling down on your misunderstanding now and pretending that that's what I "secretly" meant. You are being childish.

You'd make a great eco-fascist.