Reddit Migration

Digg.com-->reddit.com-->Fediverse?

#RedditMigration

Draft! Work in Progress! Feedback welcome!

Tens of thousands of people have signed up for KBin and Lemmy accounts since I first published “Don’t tell people “it’s easy”,” hundreds of new instances have been created, and “the threadiverse” is suddenly a hot topic of conversation… Of course, it hasn’t all gone smoothly, but the opportunity isn’t going away.

Is how easily mods have caved in once the admins threatened to remove them. I had thought we'd see quite a few cases where Reddit would have to step in an replace entire mod teams (effectively killing the community). But it seems like that hasn't happened at all - the closest we've got is mods being reordered.

I guess I didn't appreciate how much moderating means to some people, especially people who are marginalised or otherwise have shitty lives... (which makes Reddit's behaviour even more abhorrent! Exploiting the most vulnerable in society to provide free labour they are making huge profits off).

That said, it seems like Reddit has crossed the Rubicon now. They have now forced mods to run their subreddits in a certain way. Mods now know they are operating in some tight boundaries, and the admins can - on a whim - change the rules and force them to comply. i.e. any illusion of the power they had is now massively reduced. I'm sure a lot of them will be in denial, but this more than likely won't be the last time we see this happen.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/281237

(Feel free to remove this as off-topic, but this relates to the post about the r/Piracy poll regarding what content will be permitted upon reopening. The body of this post wouldn't get the same reach as a comment on that post.)

Ahoy hearties! Here what I be thinkin'. Reddit be chargin' tens of millions of doubloons for third-mates to access the API, aye? They be claimin' to deserve a share of the booty for providin' trainin' data for AI (and obviously to kill competition with third-mate apps to boot).

Methinks if yee MUST chatter with those landlubbers (such as for the purpose of recruitin' new mates or cussing out mutinous scabs), then yee ought to make any text data yee provide unappealing and unusable to potential AI-training-customers.

Paintings of (Sexy) Captain John Oliver will only sully the attention of the human users. But (pirate) coded language mayhaps be an obstruction for bots? For those who find pirate speak to be too much effort, an alternative be to speak "sdrawkcaB".

I can no longer cast my bottled messages to Reddit's shore, so any of you seadogs are free to pass it along.

Source: comment thread in r/interestingasfuck stating that it has now become a 'porn sub'. It only for nsfw because they also do malicious compliance.

I've been looking through the list of subs that are restricted and some of those I used to frequent. The mindset seems to have changed a bit. Maybe it's just this sub?

https://reddit.adminforge.de/r/ITCareerQuestions/comments/14ayo5w/poll_blackout_or_not/

Edit: I mean, I should expect this. Oh well.

According to threadcount

222,397 Lemmy/kbin accounts
+23,441 in the last hour
71,331 monthly active users

Link is to view on Libreddit, an alternative private front-end to Reddit.

What a bunch of boners, truly.

Looking for something similar. Thanks!

Thousands of moderators overseeing the site’s subreddits are on strike. It’s a wrinkle in Reddit’s plan to go public, and a sign that plan is premature, columnist Anita Ramaswamy writes.

kbin.social was the first thing on the recommended list.

"He added that he plans to make changes to moderator policies so users can vote them out. Currently, a higher-ranking moderator — or the company — can boot out moderators. Incidentally, a r/Apple moderator posted on Twitter (via 9to5Mac) that Reddit was threatening to remove moderators who are staging an indefinite blackout."

I thought about it and it'll be helpful a thread going of folks who made a request, and when they got their data. To help give other folks an idea of when they might here back, if they put a request in now.

I put my request in the day before the blackout. Still waiting to hear back from Reddit.

Edit: Just FYI I ended up deleting my account before hearing back on this. If I ever do hear back I will update on here, but at this point I'm seriously doubting that will happen.

Edit2: 2023-07-10 - they got back to me. Since I no longer have a reddit account this was emailed to the email address I registered the account with.

I don't really care if the lurkers stay on reddit, but I'd like for the creators to transition here and I'd like for this to be the place where you find the good information.

Rather than berate people who stay, I'm offering carrots / breadcrumbs. In the communities I was active, I'm still monitoring what's being posted. Instead of posting new content or answers I'm composing content (with a paraphrased question where appropriate) here on the fediverse and simply providing a link to my response in the reddit thread.

Will reddit start blocking the fediverse? Maybe. Will my posts be downvoted or banned? Maybe. Do I care? Only in that it reduces the visibility of good content. And maybe that's enough to drive people to look in places other than reddit anyway.

I believe this is a long-view approach to migrating away from reddit, and helping others do the same. Reddit will not collapse overnight (as entertaining as that would be), but rather will be a long, slow tapering as the Next Thing^TM^ takes hold. And I'm hoping that this is that next thing that is less likely susceptible to corruption.

Basically the title.

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For those who don't know, retrogaming on Reddit was a labour of love, there is a multireddit, m/retrogamingnetwork that networks over 60 subreddits under one banner giving the audience, banner, and reach of a big subreddit to some very small and niche spaces.

I bopped onto the main subreddit to grab their discord link for https://sub.rehab/ and was amazed to see the sub open. There's a stickied post from "your new head mod" - they've made some changes already, ones that would stir debate if the userbase was still there to know about it: Reveddit Link

To quote the post opener:

First of all, you all know me probably at this point, but I’m Chalupacabra. We’re in the process of readjusting the mod team, so it’s not fully set up yet, but I’m your new head mod. It’s a process that’s been in the works for a bit now, I’m sure you’ve probably noticed some of the changes the team and I have put together to try to mix things up a bit based on what y’all told us you were interested in seeing.

And if there's any doubts as to what the community "were interested in seeing" we had voted 88% in favour of a total blackout.

On the one hand I'm glad I don't have anything to miss on reddit anymore, I'm not interested in being part of communities run by people more interested in themselves than anyone else, but it's sad to see something that should have died peacefully be zombified instead.

I want to subscribe to this magazine on another instance, but it doesn't seem to let me.

Could anyone explain to my why some people are trying so incredible hard to turn lemmy/kbin into Reddit 2.0?

Reddit wasn't exactly great before this migration wave, it hasn't been an interesting place in quite some time and I sincerely doubt it will get better in the future.

In my opinion most content on there is pretty much trash in a variety of flavors. That and doomscrolling. Sure there is niche subs and I get that losing them to might suck, but everyone managed before we had those and everyone will manage now. There is always the option to remake them somewhere else when Reddit decides to kill them, be it by removing modding tools, drowning the content in ads or what ever malicious shit might happen.

In most cases a massive number of users has been detrimental to the quality of subs. I don't really see the benefit trying to get as many people to switch as possible. In fact I think there is an argument to be made for smaller communities.

There is also a tendency to argue that people shouldn't use Reddit. People also drink till they black out and shouldn't do that either. Or drive their cars over the speed limit. Or pronounce "gif" with a "j". Why not let everyone do what they want, why does this have to be a binary choice or a choice at all?

Maybe a few people just feel like this is some kind of battle that has to be won. It isn't. Reddit will try to make as much money as possible at any cost, it is how most companies operate in capitalistim. You don't have to like it. As a matter of fact I'd respect you more if you didn't. But it is nothing you will fix by trying to "convert" people to Lemmy like you are a Jehovah's Witness of discussion platforms.

Or maybe you are mad at spez. Good, he is an ass. Maybe other people will realize that and take it as a reason to use Reddit less or not at all. Maybe they won't. You don't exactly have agency when it comes to their decision.

So what exactly is it that is driving you? Do people have friends over there they want to bring over here? Do you miss the endless meme subs and can't survive without them?

I clearly don't get it and would very much appreciate some comments, so I might be able to understand your motivation better.

The dev, @hariette, also has a Mastodon profile where she posts updates https://tech.lgbt/@hariette. There is also a link to the apps discord server in her bio.

I just spent all day today fighting with reddit, trying to get all my comments deleted/overwritten: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/45417/Anyone-have-experience-with-deleting-comments-to-see-older-comments#entry-comment-190482

It's not just me, someone else reported the same, though using a different tool: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/46805/Strange-phenomenon-while-deleting-my-comments

Basically, reddit has the most ridiculous api ever! A 1000 limit on viewing .. well basically anything. Try to go further back, and you can't.

The tools and scripts and websites we are using to delete, they are hitting that limit and can't go past it. My own reddit is only 5 years old and I hit this. I imagine that many folks where, the ex-redditors who had 12, 17 year old accounts, you probably didn't get everything on your way out.

Unless of course, you had a data retrieval request made to reddit, and reddit responded with your data. Only then are tools like shreddit and websites like shreddit.com able to completely wipe out your history. Or else you knew about this somehow already and used an external manager like eternity - https://github.com/jc9108/eternity - to save a copy of your posts before they got lost to the 1k limit.

Worst of all, it's explained that deleting items does not rebuild the list - so you can't see the older stuff by deleting newer stuff.

I'm hoping that private/public transition is an exception to this and it'll rebuild my lists when that happens. Maybe then I can go far back enough to delete everything.

Edit: Nope, someone confirmed in a comment below that this doesn't happen.

Also looks like pushshift is not an option, as pushshift was shut down last month, https://old.reddit.com/r/pushshift/comments/13mhuzq/api_has_been_taken_down/ - and under the new deal, regular users won't be able to use it when it opens up for business again, only approved moderators can (and likely only for approved reasons) if i'm understanding https://old.reddit.com/r/pushshift/comments/13w6j20/advancing_communityled_moderation_an_update_on/ correctly.

First of all, I don't even know if this is the place to ask, but I couldn't find anywhere else that made sense...

Second, Kbin looks amazing, definitely the best out of the fediverse, however there are still things I cannot for the life of me find in the UI.

1. Where can I see a list of the magazines I'm subscribed to? A list, not posts from.
2. Why do the thumbnails for posts appear distorted? The have incorrect aspect ratio. Is there a way to fix this?
3. Where can I see a list of local communities?
4. How is microblogging handled differently from other types of posts? Do they all show up on the home page?

EDIT: #5 I don't seem to get any notifications of any sort, visual or otherwise, that I have received responses to a post or comment. Is this the way it's supposed to be?

I have many more, but any help with those for now would be amazing.

Last night, I used Redact to delete all my comments, then altered the settings to make an exception for one and only one subreddit. To check if I even had comments left in that subreddit, I kept an eye on my comments through Infinity. At first the comments were being deleted one by one, then suddenly it showed a "No comments found" screen half-way through the deletion. So I looked through a post in that subreddit where I entered a discussion, and it turns out that my comments there were still up, despite my comments tab showing nothing. I then checked RiF and it didn't show my comments through my profile. Today (after having deleted everything), I checked through my comments in my post in another subreddit, and it turns out they were still up, despite the fact that I didn't make exceptions for it. Still found no comments through my profile.