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They sell things that come in cups, or with napkins. Lots of people cycle/run/walk here instead of driving, seems pretty stupid.
Taking away the bins doesn't mean you don't produce rubbish....
Edit: I think there is still a bin IN the cafe, but most people eat/drink outside. Lots of people asking staff where the bins are. Still hypocritical I think though? (And still mildly infuriating to remove well used bins!)
It mildly infuriates me that you can't see the logic in taking your rubbish with you when you leave.
While this is the ideal outcome, in reality people are just going to throw their trash in the bushes.
People who do this already did even when bins were still there. Because placing rubbish into pocket or backpack is so hard!
And they should be fined for dumping.
Or the park could invest in basic services instead of criminalizing guests.
Littering used to be illegal most places. It should be illegal pretty much every public place. If you're breaking the law, you're criminalizing yourself. This is like saying we shouldn't resurface roads because it criminalizes speeders.
Saying they are committed to producing no rubbish on site on a sign, then selling things that result in rubbish, is hypocritical.
Do you have an example of something that would be sold that had no resulting rubbish?
bread bowl lol
You eat the spoon?
i think they should invent bread spoons for that purpose
Bread comes in a package… The soup that goes in it had a container…. Utensils to consume…?
The cafe has a garbage, and they don’t want it filled up with public waste, so when you’re done, take it back to the cafe and they will gladly dispose of their garbage for you.
Food that comes on reused plates and/or drinks in reused cups. Much of the advertising around littering prevention was developed by industries who saw profits in creating a lot of single use items that wanted to shift the blame for any litter to individuals instead of them. When you see an empty bottle of Pepsi floating in a pond, Pepsi deserves more criticism than whoever dropped that specific bottle since they are the ones who brought it into the world, and they do it on a much larger scale than any 1 person could ever manage.
The food all came in packaging, and stuff breaks or gets dropped, NOTHING is ever rubbish free dude…
Take your garbage back to cafe, they removed the bins so it wouldn’t be filled up by other people’s shit.
If you are a business generating rubbish, it is your moral responsibility to account for that rubbish. The business selling stuff doesn't have their employees filling their pockets with the bulk food packaging rubbish at the end of the day to dispose of at home; they have their own bins. They just don't want to be responsible for all the rubbish they generate cause it costs them more money than trying to put that responsibility on someone else.
Yes and if you take them their garbage they gave you with their food, they will deal with it. They just don’t want to deal with the public’s granola bar wrappers, so they are now where they control the garbage.
If you bring them your garbage and they dispose of it in their bins, does that not fit your moral requirement? Or do you want bins every 10 feet to satisfy your laziness? Can’t walk balk to where you paid for stuff to return the garbage….,?
You seem to think there is no bins… obviously the cafe will produce garbage, I never stated they wouldn’t. I was pointing out people like you, that there HAS TO STILL BE BINS. So yes, they do have a way of dealing with it. So take your rubbish to them, and they will gladly deal with it. Does that work?
A corndog with a twizzler for the stick
No, which is why it's stupid to take bins away from stores/cafes.
I don’t see a cafe in the picture? Are you sure this isn’t down the trail and the cafe still has a garbage…?
Cafe deals with its own garbage, and I’m sure if you asked to put your napkin in it, they wouldn’t have a single issue.
The cafe obviously doesn’t want its garbage filled up with what people brought with them, they will deal with their own, 100% guaranteed.
Photo is under the red dot (~~you can see the play area in the background of the photo)~~ nvm, no you can't. But that's where it is!
So the inside of the cafe obviously has bins that could be used… and they don’t want to PUBLIC non cafe people filling it…..
Do people even stop to think for 2 seconds before bitching?
So only mildly infuriating?
Excessively lazy*
Can’t walk 20 feet back to where you paid for your food?
Going from OPs description as the sign doesn't show the area. There is a couple benches in the background, which leads me to believe it's reasonably accurate.
Obv the situation is a little different if OPs not being honest.
Even then, the cafe will take your garbage and put in their bin. They don’t want their refuse filled up with public waste as the charge would fall on them.
Clearly they have a way of still dealing with waste…. And why wouldn’t they take their own waste back? People are going off the deep end without even stopping to think for half a fucking second.
Or... You could just put a bin where the public can use it.
This is stupid.
Where animals can get at it and throw it all over the park?
Or you could just be a decent human and take your refuse with you? But again, the cafe will gladly take your garbage, so what’s your point here? Just bloviating? Or just too lazy to walk another 20 feet to cafe to dispose of the garbage?
Sorry it’s not convenient for how lazy you are.
This has been a solved problem for decades. Animal resistant bins have been standard in parks for ages.
Just one of literally hundreds of examples: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/bear-proof-garbage-bins-made-in-lethbridge-1.4542351
Maybe they will, maybe they won't. Either way, I'd have to wait in line or skip ahead+interrupt staff and the waiting customers instead of just putting the garbage that I was given into a provided bin out front.
I agree with the concept of 'pack in, pack out', if you brought it to a site, you take it back out with you. But If I go to a location and am given garbage while I'm there, I expect there to be somewhere I can dispose of it. I'm not packing more home than I brought with me.
I'm also not saying there should be bins all throughout the forest; just in this context where it's effectively a food court, not providing a bin is ridiculous.
Key word being resistant dude…. They aren’t animal PROOF and they don’t always work. So no it’s not actually “solved” there’s a solution, that just kinda works okay, but still doesn’t stop the problem fully.
Also this absolute nugget…
If you’re at a park and eating from a cafe, unless you stand there and eat it. The expectation should be to deal with your own garbage…..
I can see taking things that I brought with me like granola bar wrappers and water bottles, but if you have a cafe selling cheeseburgers, fountain drinks, and coffee, it seems dumb to expect people to carry all that home rather than allowing them to throw it away at the same place they bought and consumed it.
Yeah but the Cafe does have bins inside. It's just the park that removed the public waste bins.
Well, I hadn't seen that mentioned anywhere, so if that's the case I agree it's not a big deal to pack your trash back to the cafe.
You're weird for not knowing the OP's actual point?
It's a cafe area; they are giving you trash with your meal/drink, not providing a bin for it, then expecting you to pack it out.
Expecting people to packout the garbage they brought with them is one thing (that still doesn't get followed); but if you're going to provide the public with trash, you've gotta give them somewhere to dispose of it.
The cafe has bins. OP amended the post admitting that they do. The bins are inside, but either way, they do exist.