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They sell things that come in cups, or with napkins. Lots of people cycle/run/walk here instead of driving, seems pretty stupid.

Taking away the bins doesn't mean you don't produce rubbish....

Edit: I think there is still a bin IN the cafe, but most people eat/drink outside. Lots of people asking staff where the bins are. Still hypocritical I think though? (And still mildly infuriating to remove well used bins!)

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[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 102 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I used to work for the Woodland Trust and believe that this is the right thing to do. Bins in woodlands do not get emptied often and will often overflow and attract unwanted pests like rats. Rats will also eat the eggs of ground nesting birds and cause other environmental issues.

If they are selling food on site then the food vendor should have a bin that their customers can use inside their cabin/cafe and dispose of the waste daily as part of the service.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 54 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Bins in woodlands do not get emptied often and will often overflow

Think I found the problem— why not do the obvious thing and empty them more often?

[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Because that would mean employing someone to empty them regularly, and as most woodland is few and far between in this country most woodland owners deem that an unnecessary expense.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There’s a cafe and forestry workers, is it that time consuming?

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

And how do they get the garbage to the dump? You would need vehicles, insurance, garage, maintenance departments… it all snowballs.

Just be responsible for your own garbage, not a hard concept.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The cafe will have a contract with someone to take away waste, this waste could be included.

I totally agree people should take away rubbish that they create, unfortunately many dont.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world -1 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

Public waste wouldn’t be included in the cafes waste, you expecting them to foot the bill?

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 1 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

Sounds like the cafe is run by forestry England. If they don’t want thick and lazy people to chuck waste around the forest and cafe area, I think they should provide bins. Unfortunately, some people don’t care.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

What makes you think the cafe is run by the forestry?

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 0 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)

The forest center near me removed the bins.

.. From their café/picnic area

Says “their” in the comment when you open the post.

If you run a business, you generally dispose of waste that that business produces, if there’s a sit in area provided.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago) (1 children)

Yeah dude, OP is an idiot and lied to make this post, you seriously expecting them to know that the restaurant and park aren’t the same…?

If you run a business, you generally dispose of waste that that business produces, if there’s a sit in area provided.

They do? Inside the cafe. You are not suggesting that a food business would be going against the law and their business license by not having them for their own personal use are you…? Right….?

They most likely removed the bins so the people in the park with their vehicle waste and granola bars weren’t filling it up…. Or people from the cafe were filling up the public bin, making a private business a public issue. Both aren’t good situations.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 0 points 21 minutes ago

Yeah, I looked it up. Taking away bins and then moaning about litter is moronic though, cause too many people are dickheads.

[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Genuine answer here, as someone who volunteers for the parks. A lot of times the budgets are tight, depending on whose responsibility it is to clean up the area and what services are there/nearby, the staffing just isn't available. Yeah it's a pretty easy thing to do in theory, but in practice when it becomes "okay and 2 hours of your shift is driving out there and emptying the cans" it's not a far leap to just "Remove the cans, make the snack stand dispose of their garbage on their own"

I mean I get it, the cans are nice but also, like you're an adult. Throw your trash away on your own.

"But then people will throw it on the ground!" Okay then pay someone to stand out there and slap every idiot that thinks littering is okay because they couldn't find a can in 10 seconds.

It's common decency in plenty of places around the world to take your garbage with you until you find a can. It's not hard.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It’s common decency in plenty of places around the world to take your garbage with you until you find a can.

But you've removed all the cans rather than fix your budgeting problems.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I’m sure the parking lot or your house has one. Why do you think other people should pay for your laziness to dispose of your own garbage?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's the function of the parks service. And it's taxpayer money, so it's my money paying for it too.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

So now instead of them being able to provide other services they need to continue piddling money away so you can be lazy and throw your trash where you please?

People don’t want to pay more taxes so you can just be lazy and need garbage cans every 20 feet dude… shitty take lmfao. They would much rather the money go to making things better, not perpetuating laziness and creating eyesores.

Do you think people like seeing and smelling garbage bins while taking a nature walk?! Seriously?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Better than seeing trash everywhere dude

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 35 minutes ago

They already have to because of the bins… remove them and people remove their garbage and all of a sudden. No garbage to look at it, no bins, no smell, no rodents and a pristine park.

And you WANT to ruin it with excessive garbage cans to ease your laziness?

You don’t return carts after shopping either I bet.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (5 children)

Who’s gonna do it and pay for it?

If people weren’t such babies and cleaned up after themselves, we wouldn’t need to waste taxpayers money on cleaning up after adults who could do it themselves.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 2 points 39 minutes ago

Me, via my taxes I would expect.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I dunno about you, but if I see a bin in a public area, I assume some is paid to empty it. I don’t empty it myself.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Who’s gonna do it and pay for it?

Sounds like there's a bunch of people and some kind of organisation that runs this area, after all, they made the decision to take the bins away. This is also a cafe area, so someone's making money off this zone.

THOSE PEOPLE ARE.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The problem isn't that a park removed their trash cans. The problem is that a cafe removed their trash cans.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

The cafe still has garbage cans inside, and why would the forestry speak for the cafe…? The sign is from the ministry of forestry, why would you claim the cafe removed the bins when they stated THEY did themselves?

It’s like people just make shit up to get mad about. The sign told you who removed it for fucks sakes lmfao.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What makes you think the cafe still has bins inside? The OP here is claiming the bins were removed from the cafe/picnic area.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Because they legally have to? You can’t have a food service business and not have garbage and recycling bins….

Are you just gonna make up any stupid reason you can come up with now to try and save face that you can’t read a sign?

[–] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The OP also claims there is still trash bins inside; and the edit to add this information was done 1 hour before this guy claims there is no bins inside 🤦‍♂️.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

So they can't afford to keep the land they have in trust so it is all the landless peasantry that should labor for the land holders because kindness ?

[–] Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 hours ago

Wild argument. No one is "laboring for land holders", they're cleaning up after themselves for their own good and the good of everyone/thing around them

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Just take your garbage home.

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 19 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

This is right by the cafe/site office/car park though. The reception desk is about 20m to the left and staffed during daylight hours year round.

Not like it's in the middle of nowhere.

I get your point, there are very few bins elsewhere (mostly by the other car parks) and that's fine. It's just that the place that gives you rubbish makes it hard to responsibly get rid of it.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 points 4 hours ago

May I ask the name of this place? I'd like to pull it up on Google Maps and have a look at the layout.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't there a bin at the cafe?

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think that's the problem. I interpret it as the cafe removed their bins.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

It’s a sign from the forest ministry, they removed their bins.

Why on earth would you think a sign from the ministry of forestry would be speaking for and removing a cafes bins…?

Read the fucking sign for fucks sakes. It’s literally, right fucking there.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Read the fucking post for fucks sake. It's right fucking there.

The sign says the bins were removed. The post headline says the bins were removed from the cafe area. This is a cafe at a visitor center at a forest.

Before you go insulting the reading comprehension of others, try working on your own.

[–] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Sorry to break it to you, but the OP explicitly states that they believe bins are still inside the cafe. In other comments they also claim they are still available at other nearby parking lots.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The cafe is a building itself and the park removed the bins from outside.

You realize that OP probably missed stuff or intentionally withheld information to make this sound worse than it is?

Before you go insulting the reading comprehension of others, try working on your own.

Says the one assuming and claiming with zero evidence that the cafe removed them…? When there’s a nice little sign that explains everything already?

Read the sign, and have a little critical thinking yourself. This isn’t that hard to comprehend.

The cafe is a building. Inside are bins, OP had even stated this, or is OP not a good source when it doesn’t align with your ignorance?

I’m calling you out, since this has already been figured out, and you’re just late to the party and saying “the cafe did this”.

No they didn’t, stop perpetuating that lie that is easily disproved by the sign OP posted for us….