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Man... Imagine actually losing a child, and then seeing this man call his daughter dead simply because she is trans.
It's actually an unbelievably awful and sad thought... And it's not hypothetical. It's very real.
Also, speaking as a disowned trans woman, while not the case here, often the parents saying that refrain either were the ones to cut contact themselves, or are engaging in missing missing reasons shit
It's not uncommon for even loving and supportive parents to need to mourn their idea of who they thought their child was as they get to know them as they are now. But that's a time to maybe attend some pflag counseling sessions and talk to parents who've been through it and can assure them that their kid is the same person and going to be happier. Making a public stink and getting involved in transphobia guarantees lasting damage to your relationship if it can ever be recovered.
I'm so very sorry to hear that happened to you. There's a lot of parents out there that are... less than optimal. I guess the various survivors will just have to build our own found families out of people worth our time.
Yeah. Though it should be noted, it's actually rare for disowning like that to be permanent. I've known my fair share of us and contact is usually reestablished a few years later. At nearing 10 years without meaningful contact I'm an exception. But for those who do reestablish contact the years and trust that are lost are incredibly important. To lose family during such an emotionally and materially vulnerable time does lasting damage and some parents don't seem to get why their child, while open to reestablishing contact, can't let things go back to how they were before.
And yeah I've been fortunate, I find myself surrounded by love and community at stage after stage of my life. Some scars are difficult to heal, and so I do like to speak up on this topic in case someone who needs to hear does.
love seeing references to Down the Rabbit Hole out in the wild
This is my first thought and is another level of awful on this shit sundae. Trans rights are a whole separate conversation. Let's start with the fact that some people do lose their children and would do ANYTHING to have them back for one fucking day. A father who buried their child would be well within their rights to beat the ever loving shit out of Elon for this post.
NO. No they fucking didn't die. What YOU did was decide you'd rather have a dead son than a living daughter. What YOU decided was your child wasn't worth it. That you didn't love them enough to learn anything or change your fucking mind.
It's even worse than that. He's lying. According to Vivian, he didn't give a shit that she was trans until he turned alt-right. Now he's trying to use that to score points with his new fanbase.
He didn't care about her pre-transition. He doesn't care about her post-transition. He doesn't care about a "woke mind virus". He's just doing the right-wing equivalent of virtue signaling. Vice signaling?
The "best" part is that it's basically all because she pointed out what a POS dad he was, and when some stupid publicity stunts he did to make her like him didn't work, he turned on her and went on this "woke mind virus" tirade. He's such a petulant child it's absolutely hilarious.
Oh, I didn't know about that history. I thought it all started with the Jordan Peterson interview.
I mean isn't he choosing all male children? What else do you expect.
He's a literal technofascist and yes he is, almost none of his kids are reportedly natural conceptions and there's some evidence to suggest botched penis vanity surgery prevents him from having children naturally.
Someone should do a study of these fucking losers to see how much overlap there is between hateful right wing ideology, bigots, pedos, etc. and dudes with deformed penises.
Didn't Epstein also have a weird shaped penis? And Trump?
I don't even know if he understands what sex is.
What evidence of a botched penis vanity surgery is there?
His ex grimes allegedly saying it.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/02/26/musk-penis-implant/
There's a difference between Grimes saying something and Azealia Banks claiming that Grimes said something. I'd be very skeptical of any rumor started by Azealia Banks.
There's not, grimes has had ample opportunity to rebuke the idea and chose not to so it stands as circumstantial evidence.
I am skeptical of anyone giving musk the benefit of the doubt at this point, guess we're just different people huh?
Nobody wants to respond to Azealia Banks, who is known for harassing other artists on social media, especially ones who don't have the foresight to avoid interacting with her. Grimes didn't comment the last name Banks dragged her into a feud related to Elon Musk, and later released a song about "trying to destroy Azealia Banks when she tried to destroy my life".
Why would Grimes go out of her way to defend her ex against rumors about his penis when he just tried to block her from seeing their children? Grimes is not responsible for refuting rumors about Musk and she has every reason to ignore them, even more so when Azealia Banks is involved.
That's a wall of text that says you can't disprove it you just distrust a random singer less than the Nazi in the white house. Genius position, hope it works out for you.
I don't trust known liars like Elon Musk or Azealia Banks, so don't put words in my mouth. You taking gossip from a "random singer" seriously because Grimes ignored it is a "genius position", hope it works out for you.
I didn't take advice. I said I wouldn't doubt it. there's evidence to suggest it's true. You seem to be the one outright ignoring someone because you don't trust them, so yeah genius position.
Ps, you're taking gossip too you dirty gossip girl, in fact you linked to it as though it were somehow evidence.
Yes, I distrust claims from people who are untrustworthy, including Elon Musk and Azealia Banks. You should too.
Azealia Banks saying something on Twitter is not "evidence".
It's literally evidence, saying "Nuh uh" however firmly will not change that fact.
Unsubstantiated gossip from a habitual liar is not evidence. Saying "yes it is" however firmly will not change that fact.
It is evidence detective, it's not "good" evidence in your mind which is called an opinion since you don't seem to understand that either.
Evidence (2)
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evidence
https://www.troutman.com/insights/when-where-and-whether-the-confusing-law-of-third-party-evidence.html
Since you're quoting legal definitions, you should learn that rumors are hearsay, and hearsay is inadmissible as evidence.
It absolutely is there are hearsay rules both federally and at the state level that determine what weight to give hearsay. Criminal law is different, but even then hearsay can be admissable, it just isn't by default.
Federal rules of evidence basically 801 to 807, 803, 805 and 807 (?) are specific exemptions. Notably in civil court they'd object to hearsay and the resolution is to call the person who is claimed to have said or done whatever as a witness and get their testimony making it no longer hearsay.
Obviously, "I heard he had a penis implant" does not qualify for these exemptions.
I'm sorry, again what court are we in?
Regardless, you'd call grimes as a witness and in civil court you do not have a fifth amendment right, they have to answer truthfully and make it no longer hearsay.
If you're going to be tedious throw a little logic in there to save us both the time.
The court that you conjured up to justify your use of a rumor that would inadmissable as evidence. Grimes isn't testifying since she made no comment. In fact, there's nothing to indicate that she is even aware of the rumor.
Your tedious arguments all stem from your failure to recognize that just because someone said something on social media doesn't mean it's credible, even if the people the rumor is about didn't bother to acknowledge it.
I specifically and in multiple specifically said we're not taking about court. Yes she's not aware aside from it being an immensely well known rumor especially right now but sure, it's not like she's famous for her social media acumen.... Oh wait.
That doesn't make it not evidence, yet again that wouldn't make it good evidence in your opinion. Two separate things though the awkward aggression is a neat addition to this particular exchange.
That’s an allegation, not evidence.
Sounds like circumstantial evidence to me...
Allegations from first hand sources are evidence, that's an eye witness they have children together people have been convicted of murder on eye witness alone.
My limited understanding of the law is that allegations can trigger investigations in the hopes to find evidence, but are not evidences themselves. I could be wrong though.
Did I say I'm conducting an investigation let alone a criminal one? No. Lol into civil law and we're not even saying it's that it's just closer to that then criminal law.