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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Hex and grad are tankie instances that are very in your face about it and don't carry the honor of being "the flagship" instance and as a result were easy to widely defederate from which led to most people here not having strong opinions on it

.ml admins are hardcore tankies, but try to maintain .ml as the flagship and thus are more subtle about their tankieness. Instead opting to just censor any dissenting opinions before things get crazy in threads.

As a result many instances are way more hesitant to actually defed from them like they did the rest of the Tankie Triad, thus leading to more widespread visibility and in turn more widespread dissatisfaction of them by most.

Checkout !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works (for those on a .ml account you'll need to use this link because, ironically, .ml admins censor that comm from you: https://lemmy.world/c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works ) for documented instances of their behavior

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One example of this is when I called out some Hexbear users for their bullshit propaganda and then when they started brigading against me and making literal death threats, the .ml mod swooped in, deleted my comments, and gave me a temporary ban. The hexbear users comments remained visible including the death threats.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How do they get off being the 'Flagship' instance then? Should that concern us or is it meh?

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I don't think it can, it's a flagship because it's the first instance, being run by the main devs as a demonstration of Lemmy's capabilities so it's always on the latest beta version at least.

But, they could just stop using it as a tool to further their own political stances and have it actually be a "generalist" instance. For that though, they'd have to give up being the admins of it, which they'll probably never do.

It is of concern yes, but maybe if the wider Lemmy-verse defeded from them, like they did Hex and Grad, it would at least be easier to say that their views are not shared by any of us to any newcomers/outsiders by being able to point to a clear and visible action like defederation.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Damn - as I love Lemmy and believe in the mission it's hard to square that with tankie devs

[–] seeigel@feddit.org -1 points 1 week ago

it would at least be easier to say that their views are not shared by any of us to any newcomers/outsiders

Do we need users who cannot mentally separate that?