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Alt Text: an image of Agent Smith from The Matrix with the following text superimposed, "1999 was described as being the peak of human civilization in 'The Matrix' and I laughed because that obviously wouldn't age well and then the next 25 years happened and I realized that yeah maybe the machines had a point."
When I heard that line I was like "Yeah, sure. We'll never have AI in my lifespan" and you know what? I was right.
What I wasn't expecting was for a bunch of tech bros to create an advanced chatbot and announce "Behold! We have created AI, let's have it do all of our thinking for us!" while the chatbot spits out buggy code and suggests mixing glue into your pizza sauce.
AI is an umbrella term that covers many things we've already had for a long time, including things like machine learning. This is not a new definition of AI, it's always been this definition.
You're confusing AI and AGI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect
AGI is what people mean, when they say "AI doesn't exist": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence
While AI is a program that can do a task associated with human intelligence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence
AI is not supposed to be an artificial human being. AI just does a task that people associated with humans (before they readjusted the definition of intelligence after it being created).
A bot that plays chess is an AI.
While this can be a valuable clarification, it ignores the plain use history of the term AI, and demands that language change for our convenience.
Laypeople have always used "AI" to mean what scientists call "AGI".
Language is weird, and tech bros suck.
If hollywood can waltz in and force us to stop using the name of a discipline, I think we may need to scrap this sim and start from scratch.
It used to be that AI was AI and then when AI was coopted by the stupid they had to come up qith AGI
No, it just wasn't mainstream to talk about because the average person didn't encounter AI
People playing video games have been differentiating between AI and AGI for over 50 years, though, considering enemies in video games are all AI
Ya know, I can remember AI being used even in hella old games for enemies.
Which had even less to do with AI than LLM.
Q1 Reaper is still smarter than modern LLMs
I have several books for the 90s about AI programming. AI have always mean any computer program written to "resemble" intelligence, from basic path finding to LLM.
Just like the Hoverboard.
And the damn movie was already made too! Bastards!
I work in the gaming industry and every week I receive emails about how AI is gonna revolutionize my job and get sent to time wasting training about how to use Figma AI or other shit like that because it's the best thing ever according to HR... and it never is obviously.
At best, it's gonna make middle managing jobs easier but for devs like me, as long as the "AI" stays out of our engines and stays into the equivalent of cooperative vision boards, it does nothing for me. Not once have I tried to use it for it to turn actually useful. It's mediocre at best and I can't believe there are game devs that actually try to code with it, can't wait to see these hot garbage products come on the market.
Gawd, me too. They've started scraping my LinkedIn recommenders to try bait me in.
For context, I work at a university. The subject was something like "xxxxxx recommends you for a company like us" implying my contact had actually been behind it, but obviously they didn't.
And obviously it reads like it was written by one of the GPTs.
Had they seen our profiles, they'd actually know what it is we do and how ridiculous recommending a chat AI is. That's sooooo beneath our knowledge and expertise. Like a random suggesting Ivermectin to Dr Faucci.
From their example, seems like all they’ve “innovated” is a new, less reliable way to write database queries !
Yep. And query languages being some of the quickest and fastest things an analyst can do with 100% knowledge of the data and any wrangling/conditions that need to be done to assure accurate results.
A bot would never be able to accurately answer these questions off my data unless I thoroughly trained and tested it. But if it's GPT-based, I'd always have to double-check so it'd just be a hinderence in workflow. There is no way money would be paid to a third-party for such a situation.
Since there’s a mathematical proof that LLMs without hallucinations are impossible, I think this kind of usage is a lost cause.
You won't have general purpose true AI until it can actually think and reason, llm will never do that. At most they would be a way of interaction with an AI.
The matrix is set hundreds of years in the future though
Well yeah, but the machines are already ruling over us.
Yea, but the "singularity" type event that caused it was way before that.
How much time is between 1999 and Second Renaissance Part 1?
I genuinely do not understand these very obviously biased comments. By the very definition of AI, we have had it for decades, and suddenly people say we don't have it? I don't get it. Do you hate LLMs so much you want to change the entire definition for AI (and move it under AGI or something)? This feels unhinged, disconnected from reality, biases so strong it looks like delusions
What is delusional is calling a token generator intelligent. These programs don't know what the input is, nor do they understand what they put out. They "know" that after this sequence of tokens, what a likely successive token is based on previously supplied data.
They understand nothing. They generate nothing new. They don't think. They are not intelligent.
They are very cool, very impressive and quite useful. But intelligent? Pffffffh
Hey, real quick, what has the thing controlling the enemies in video games been called for 50 years and would you equally call that delusional, or are you just specifically butthurt at LLMs?
Relax. Language isn't going to change overnight.
"AI" can have different meanings to different people in different contexts. That's how words work.
The important things we can agree on is that AI scientists are doing interesting and dangerous work, and tech bro snake oil salesmen suck.
I always called them bots when doing bot matches in GRAW, Unreal Tournament, etc. All my friends did, too. Actually not sure I've ever heard PvE nor bots called "AI," if that's what you meant. Maybe now but I don't game anymore so I wouldn't know.
What controls the bots? The term used by the people making the games, the thing that controls what the bots do?
Literally always has been called AI, because that's exactly what it is: faked smarts
Code.
Why is it so hard for you to understand word "artificial"? It seems like you even avoid it. Just like artificial everything, especially weed and flavours, it's not the real thing, and was never meant to be the real thing, and yet you're essentially an old man yelling at cloud because something is artificial and does not act like the real human intelligence
Artificial means man made, not literally not it
Like "artificial stone" means "a man made stone-equivalent material", not a pink fluffy unicorn
I don't understand what point are you trying to make. Yes, AI, and everything else artificial is man made, I never said it was not. Is it anywhere good as the human intelligence? No, I was also clear about that, so what are you arguing right now? The original argument was whether LLM counts as AI (and existence of AI itself), and by every definition, it does.
We should steal the term from Mass effect, what we have is early VI, virtual intelligence, not AI.
This argument pre-dates the modern LLM by several decades. When the average person thinks of AI, they think of Star Wars or any of a myriad of other works of science fiction. Most people have never heard the term in any other context and so are offended by the implied comparison (in their understanding of the word) of LLM models as being equal to Data from Star Trek.