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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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On the off-chance someone creates some original content, it's likely that they'll want their name to be associated with (as the post author), and I assume that they're motivated to do it by the potential engagement they'll receive (in terms of replies and upvotes).
Should they commit the crime of submitting the post to a lemmy.ml community though, then cm0002's bot will come along, and post it elsewhere. The attribution will be lost, and the post will be newer and possibly on a bigger server, so is likely to get the more engagement.
It's not like everybody who posts to a ML community is a tankie or whatever, but they lose out because of some spat they have nothing to do with.
Most of us are completely defederated from .ml or blocking it. So if someone else doesn't post that content in a non-blocked instance, a large segment of us will never see it.
I want nothing to do with .ml or the other tankie instances. If someone wants credit for posting things, they should do so from a non-.ml account to a non-.ml instance.
Even if they aren't a tankie themselves, what do they say about someone who isn't a Nazi that sits at a table full of Nazis in a bar full of Nazis and says nothing about them being Nazis?
But if it's a crosspost, then can't people just visit the original source?
I mean, sure. If they recognize what's happened. We can hope that every person who sees a post just visits the original source, or I can keep hoping that just one person stops needlessly fragmenting everything. Whatever's easier, I suppose.
So you're upset over people using crossposts?
Every time I've seen cm0002 repost content from a .ml community, they've credited the author. Might want to check your sources on that.
Maybe we both do. First link I found: https://lemm.ee/post/66363651 - OC content, no attribution, 198 votes and 3 comments that could've gone to the creator of that meme, but didn't. There's a comment from OP in this thread saying that they just use the built-in cross-post functionality (crediting the author would require extra steps).
Built-in crosspost functionality literally automatically links the original post, though, so the attribution is not lost by definition. Also, even in the example you've listed the .ml version has more "engagement", by your metrics, so it doesn't even fit the problem you're describing.