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[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 74 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm dubious that a general strike is possible in the US. All of the other countries that have had massive strikes affecting large chunks of the market were driven by large unions. Our unions don't have that sort of sway and they rarely help others to maximize their diminishing bargaining power with the ongoing degradation of workers rights. Importantly this also happens on the supply side, the consumer side will just buy it tomorrow instead usually. A day of no productivity has much bigger consequences.

That being said, I'll definitely participate.

[–] QuarkVsOdo@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I fear that the average american can't afford to strike, because of the lingering threat of poverty from losing employment and getting crushed by outstanding debt. But this is a sign, that there are already not enough worker's rights.

From far away it looks like a construct.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Far too many Americans don't even get sick leave at their jobs.

[–] JonEFive@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago

And many, many more rely on their jobs not only for income, but also for access to healthcare. Something seems wrong here.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The UAW was planning a general strike for May 1st 2028. I don't know how willing they'd be to start a wildcat general strike, but they may join one.

https://may1.uaw.org/

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What is the point if scheduling a strike so far in advance? Also, aren't UAW leadership aligned with Trump?

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The point as I understand it is that they're allowing other unions to set their contract expiration to the same date, which increases the potential for pain during their next negotiations and makes for a quasi general strike across all unions who participated. It's a pretty good idea all in all.

Also, it's complicated who Sean Fain aligns with. He's pro-tariff and praised Trump for incentivizing cars to be made in the US, although it seems like that's the extent of it, and I wonder how he feels about it now that it's been fully unmasked to just be market manipulation by Trump's circle of billionaires. Sean's speech still hit most of the socialist talking points of pro labor even though it was to a bunch of Republican donors, leading to the funniest and most revealing awkward silences after sections about how the working class is who provides all of the value in an economy.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pro-tariff makes sense purely from a "protecting American labor" point of view. The ideal of them is to encourage internal markets to favor domestic production. However, that first requires domestic production to exist, and it also needs to be done in a way that doesn't harm domestic production. The Trump tariffs aren't this, obviously.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago

Historically, what the UAW wants isn't necessarily good for the rest of us. The "chicken tax" that pushes larger and larger trucks in the US was done as part of LBJ negotiating with the UAW. The result was that foreign small trucks couldn't possibly be profitable, and thus had no competition for domestic manufacturing to make the largest trucks possible and nothing else.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 14 points 3 days ago

What they are doing is asking all unions to set May 1st 2028 as the expiration date for their next labor contract. They aren't actually scheduling a strike, just laying the groundwork.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 days ago

It was planned before the election, and they likely didn't anticipate Trump would win again.

From what I've seen the UAW leader is fairly left leaning.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Basically letting the turnip destroy the country for nearly 4 years...

[–] shane@feddit.nl 14 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The article says that a 1947 law makes it almost impossible for unions to organize a general strike.

[–] ManOMorphos@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Anything that would cause real economic damage and put power back in the hands of workers will be treated as "illegal" regardless of what the books say. But what could they realistically do, arrest everyone in their homes who didn't go to work that day?

Wildcat strikes are "illegal" in the sense that your employer is allowed to retaliate with firing you or docking pay if you do so. I highly doubt someone's going to prison for not showing up at a regular job.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

But what could they realistically do, arrest everyone in their homes who didn't go to work that day?

Considering that the US has the highest incarcerated population in the world, it's not like they aren't trying to do this very thing.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's preferable to break that anti-labour red scare law if it means avoiding the country getting to the point where civil war happens instead.

[–] Cassanderer@thelemmy.club 10 points 3 days ago

Most strikes were illegal by polit definitions. Teamsters got into pitched club battles with cops and mob organized strike breakers.

Had guys with guns on standby in case of escalation too.

And they won, circa 19teens.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Just corporate dictatorship things...

[–] Cassanderer@thelemmy.club 8 points 3 days ago

When the economy falls we can organize enough to strike to hit critical mass, not yet.