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[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Wtf is a 'secure core' vpn?

[–] warm@kbin.earth 6 points 4 days ago

It's a Proton VPN service, where they hop you through multiple servers. I guess OP assumes this is a thing for all VPNs? Or they are calling servers, VPNs.
But they are testing between different Proton VPN servers, one with "Secure Core" and one without.

[–] pubquiz@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (4 children)

secure core’ vpn It's a Proton system that is designed to fortify online privacy by routing traffic through privacy-friendly countries before it exits to the public internet. Harder to track means less ad revenue for the corp - boo hoo - so they throttle the hell out of users to drive them away and protect their ad revenue stream to track-able "clients" who foot the bill for this malfeasance.

[–] festus@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Rogers has no way to distinguish between Proton's "secure core" VPN and a simpler, more local Proton VPN endpoint. In both cases they see you sending encrypted VPN traffic to Proton - they can't see where Proton then sends that traffic next (naturally, because it's a VPN). If Proton's "secure core" VPN is slow but Proton's other options are fast then that's on Proton.

[–] GameGod@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Literally nothing in this quote makes any sense. It's 100% bullshit FUD that these sketchy VPN companies use to convince non-technical people to use them, like virus scanners back in the day.

Your ISP doesn't get any ad revenue or tamper with your traffic. Everything is HTTPS encrypted now and cannot be modified by your ISP (at least without you seeing a giant warning in your browser). Your ISP has nothing to do with the ads you see on the web.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 8 points 4 days ago

Looking at the ping you saw with Secure Core, this makes perfect sense. It's routing your packets out of the country and back through who knows how many stops. The other VPN you're testing is in your same city and adds basically no extra latency. You can't really blame Rogers for this, they're just following the laws of physics.

Well your only going to be as fast as the slowest server in that chain, with all the latency/any dropped packets/etc. driving down your speeds. Also, if it's built for security it almost certainly isn't prioritizing speed test traffic of all things.