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Matrix movie lore opinion question. Did cypher try anything else before betraying the group? Would neo and the others have tried to help him if he asked? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 week ago by Aeao@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I think if he would’ve been like “I’ve rally changed my mind. I can’t do this.” Neo and Morpheus I feel would’ve tried to help him re-enter the matrix.

The whole thing was about “give them a choice” and I think everyone would have at least understood how he fealt and would’ve tried to get him back into the matrix at his request.

I feel like he didn’t even try talking about it before he went to the agents.

I know it’s meaningless just wondering what other people thought.

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[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

OP, you mentioned Mouse as an example in a comment. You’re on the right path - it would have been trivial for Cypher to program (or have Mouse program for him) a mini Matrix where he’s uber rich and everything he wanted. Of course, it would get old real soon.

I reckon Cypher would even have mentioned it a few times to people… things like “man, I miss meat” or “man I wanna be rich af”. Most would have taken his words as just bluster. Others would equate it with Mouse’s actions - a coping mechanism or just a temporary relief.

But the reality of it - only the machines control the real Matrix. Only they decide what gets in and out, barring a few hacks like the one that got Neo out and the others out.

To plug a full fledged human back in would require quite a lot of work. As the mania of wanting back in would have gripped him, Cypher would have left clues back in the Matrix and the machines, as someone else said, would have groomed him to betray.

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You make a good point. If I remember correctly he does those comments in the movie too. Wasn’t it him who says if you close your eyes the food tastes like runny cereal? It might have been mouse. Either way your logic sounds good. He probably made passing comments often and no one noticed.