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Elon Musk's version of Wikipedia is 'cribbing' information from the real one: report
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I don't understand what exact problem Grokipedia ^[1]^ is even trying to solve.
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The 'problem' where Wikipedia doesn't allow conservatives to edit in propaganda and disinformation as much as they'd like.
Look up anything Gaza related on Wikipedia. It used to change every 5 minutes.
Yeah, this exactly. It's really hard to find actually credible sources for many of the rightwing "facts" they want to publish.
What do you mean? There are literally thousands of memes on Facebook, that back up every single claim. How is that not enough for you people? /s
You joke but their goal is to replace every institution with a ministry of truth. They've done it with the media, they're doing it with government institutions that used to be independent and evidence based, and they won't stop until they control all information.
I wonder if they allow Grok itself as a source
They feel it to be true. What more evidence do you need?
So basically what grok was trying to solve.
They have more influence on Wikipedia than people realize. Take note of how often wiki pages for famous people will say they are Jewish in the first two sentences.
Now trace the origin of these edits. Often it came from a username such as "OdinWolf88". Now look at their edit history. These accounts do nothing but add "he/she is Jewish" to the first two sentences of peoples Wikipedia pages.
That and they troll the pages of right wing mass murders and terrorist attacks.
There is already the Conservapedia doing the same thing. It allows YouTube and Twitter as sources. I once saw a sentence like "liberals believe _______" and the source was a tweet with like 40 likes.
Again, that's the point. That's their angle. Dilute everything so you can't tell what is factually accurate, and then you have kids reading this dumb shit and assuming it is true.
Interestingly, the site is timing out for me right now ^[1]^, but I've been able to find some interesting archived information: for example, they have a page titled "Conservapedia:How Conservapedia Differs from Wikipedia" ^[2]^. To say the least, I take issue with some of their rationale.
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Years ago I saw a page on that site about irrational numbers that was pure comedy. Basically they begrudgingly admit that irrational numbers might actually exist (whatever that means for numbers), but heavily implied that it's a liberal plot of some kind stemming from moral relativism or whatever. Just insane ramblings.
There are people out there fighting an insane uphill battle against not just the usual things you hear about - the young earth creationist denialism, the old earth creationist denialism, the moon landing denialists, the vaccine denialists, the moon landing denialists, the Holocaust deniers, and the spherical Earth denialists, there are also people doing whole podcasts where they try to deny things like quantum physics for similar ideological reasons...
Jan Irvin was this guy that seemed to kind of be out there on the fringe writing and talking about some rather fringe ideas related to the way in which xtianity began and interested in psychedelics, maybe somewhere on the left as far as ideology. Then, somewhere along the way, he seems to have done a turn [1], similar to the one Naomi Wolf did. Now he seems very much right-wing aligned, and at some point started cranking out lots of content about how Burning Man is some nexus of a deep state plot. Anyway, I seem to remember him cranking out lots of content railing against quantum physics, too.
Usually quantum physics serves as a crank magnet for all kinds of generally leftist kookery, but Jan seems to want to reject it outright for similar reasons that you talk about above with irrational numbers.
[1] One thing about the conspiracy theorists I've noticed is that they all tend to have similar character traits, mostly antisocial ones. They may align, for a time, with another conspiracy theorist, put out content together etc, but then, something or other happens, and they basically break up. And then they often won't even mention persona non grata...and then they find a new set of boyfriends, and soon the cycle repeats. Jan seemingly had some kind of mental break and radical life changes (?) so his positions went very red pill. If Jan is still out there doing content, I don't know if he's still doing similar content or even running with the same crew.
It's gotten to the point where now if someone links to YouTube, I'll think they're more likely to be wrong than if they just asserted it with no link. Because if it was true, it would probably have a better source.
Reality. They don't like reality.