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I'm perpetually out of the loop. Did Trump's emails get leaked?
That's wild. Any idea what media outlet specifically it was leaked to?
I wonder why it wasn’t sent to wikileaks?
Isn't Wikileaks Russian?
So they were already cc’d on them.
Yes and no; technically they're an independent entity but they've been used as useful idiots by Russian intelligence so many times at this point they're effectively Russian
nope.
No, the whole "Wikileaks is a Russian asset" story is a farce used to unjustly discredit them, since they've published some extremely damning documents.
It might be because RT gave Assange his talk show on state run tv, RT claimed WikiLeaks as a partner, Assange dumped the 2016 emails after Trump's "Russia if your listening" statement, or because after Assange claimed the hacker that provided WikiLeaks with those 2016 emails wasn't Russian, he was.
If you step back and squint, it kind of looks like he was working with Russia because of all the work with Russia.
Assange's show was produced independently and then licensed to RT, among other broadcasters.
The show is produced by Quick Roll Productions, which was established by Julian Assange with the assistance of Dartmouth Films. It is distributed by Journeyman Pictures[18] and broadcast internationally in English, Arabic, and Spanish by RT and Italian newspaper L'espresso, who both make the program available online.[1][19][20] The theme for the show was composed by M.I.A.[3][4]
I mean, that’s not entirely true. Yeah, there has been a long history of US based organizations, particularly governmental ones, trying to stop Wikileaks, capture Snowden, and generally just punish whistleblowers so brutally is deters anyone else from doing it.
But that doesn’t mean that as the years went on, the mission of Wikileaks changed as they seemed to adopt a particular goal that wasn’t just “shining a light on corruption.”
So it’s not as simple as “it’s a Russian asset” and it’s not as simple as “they’re being smeared for spilling govt secrets.” It’s a mixture of the two, but not only, and not entirely.
You're right, it does not mean the mission of WikiLeaks changed. It clearly hasn't. They still have never had to retract a single document or story.
But weren’t some of the Clinton email leaks proven to be planted?
Ah, I was confusing the fact that the right wing internet trolls planted faked emails among the Wikileaks dump. Misremembered
Totally. It is a complete farce.
Cuz they would have sat on it
Because they would actually publish it.
Narrator: They would not
As opposed to the current recipients, who are sitting on it.
But I thought it was Iran that hacked Trump. Surely they have media that can make this info available.
No, that makes sense. They have the time and energy to hack the Trump campaign email servers. But somehow lack the ability to make that information public. Yeah, that makes much more sense.
Or because there is literally nothing worth reporting. I guarantee if there was some juicy stories, they would come out.
No, they specifically didn’t get leaked. And that’s the story. Trump’s team got hacked, and the hackers sent the emails to the news outlets. The outlets protected Trump, and refused to publish the emails.
Which is in stark contrast to what happened when Hillary’s emails got sent to the news outlets. The outlets were clambering to be the first to publish them.
Almost as if the outlets have a strong bias…
Do you have a link to where the news outlets published them?
They didn't, WikiLeaks did
They did not wipe all the emails. Her team sorted through to send only the ones which were subpeonaed, which is what you are supposed to do.
And the DNC hack is what the original post probably meant, but people mix all this stuff up. Those were published on Wikileaks and generated super productive controversies, such as pizzagate.
And it isn't illegal per se to use private email. It's extremely common, but should be cracked down on. A big problem with it is age. Try telling your grandma she has to use a different email when she contacts you about certain topics.
That is such a gross oversimplification of why Nixon was impeached I don't even know where to start.
Criminal intent is required for all crimes except those which are strict liability.
And you really ate the propaganda on the rest, not sure what else to say.