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[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 254 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Genuinely fuck Musk. Cries he's being called a Nazi while doing everything in his power to act like one.

Nobody does a Nazi salute by accident Elon... And especially not with a face looking like he just bust a nut while doing it.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 107 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (6 children)

You’re not wrong, but this article is more about Netanyahu’s flexibility around ‘antisemitism.’

You know, how it’s now considered antisemitic to criticize Israel’s war crimes, but it’s totally not antisemitic to do a Nazi salute and joke about the holocaust as long as you support Israel’s war crimes?

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 15 points 4 weeks ago

Netanyahu is a bloodthirsty ultra-nationalist, but his even deeper self is just another shitty corrupt narcissist like Trump. He thinks he's got everyone conned, and he's grabbing everything he can while using the war as his claim to power. As soon as the crisis stops, people will start looking at how much he's on the take again. So he's always got to stir the shit and keep the populace in a state of panic.

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[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 33 points 4 weeks ago

he wants to act like a Nazi, spread Nazi ideas, help implement Nazi policies, and have Nazi friends, but not being called a Nazi

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 121 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Nazis siding with Israel against Jews is no great surprise at this point.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 62 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

The KKK supported black separatists in the US in their goal of creating an independent state in Africa. It's almost like you can hate a group of people AND support their right to live on the other side of the world from you.

I think benji sees the utility there, and is also a fascist

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 weeks ago

The enemy of my enemy is an enema

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 11 points 4 weeks ago

Authoritarian regimes stick together...at first.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 104 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

He's pretty clearly intentionally taunting everyone who opposes him, just demonstrating what he can get away with. That's what all of this has been about. He might not be anti-Semitic (please don't at me -- he likely is -- I said might) and rather is just a pure troll dickhead.

[–] Souroak@lemmy.sdf.org 58 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Just like with some of the 4chan idiots though, there is little functional difference between being a true believer nazi and merely pretending to be one.

[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 33 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Exactly.

“Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company.” - Jason Garrett-Glaser

[–] Souroak@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

And personally, I believe that any community that pretends to be idiots, are.

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[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 40 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Tbh, he's a massive douchebag on a power trip. It wouldn't shock me at all if he wasn't anti-Semitic and is just trying to push people's buttons. At the same time, if this is true, he's also shifting the Overton window and showing what true Nazis can safely get away with in the public eye.

That said, there's a good chance he's also just an anti-Semitic neo-Nazi piece of shit...and still doing the latter part of that.

Regardless, he's a fascist either way, so fuck him.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago

he’s also shifting the Overton window and showing what true Nazis can safely get away with in the public eye.

This is the major fucking problem. The fat orange diaper sponge already fucked up the "what's acceptable in public" perception 8 years ago - and now we have the Apartheid-dipshit one-upping his rimjob buddy.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 75 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

These headlines are getting way out of hand.

If this goes on the ADL will be denying the holocaust be the end of the week.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 12 points 4 weeks ago

"The real anti-semitism was when the allies attacked the camps on D-Day, the jews were just roasting s'mores we swear!" - The ADL

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[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 69 points 4 weeks ago

Translating a comment by a Norwegian author:

as someone who once put in a lot of effort to excuse the far right etc when they maybe cross the line a little bit but probably don't really mean it so let's all calm down a bit, I've learned one thing:

the only reward you get for doing this is that they the next day bombastically step over that same line to show that they don't feel bound by your wimpy sense of decency

because the fight is against what they perceive as a wimpy, castrated centrist decency is one of the central driving forces in such groups

More people who have tried to explain away the nazi salute could probably stand to learn the same lesson ASAP. The only thing they're really communicating is that the rich & powerful can do what they want and the excusers will stay their loyal lapdogs.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 59 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] index@sh.itjust.works 58 points 4 weeks ago

Being a great friend of netanyahu is yet more evidence that you are a fascist

[–] nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz 29 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

The tweet for those curious

Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations! Some people will Goebbels anything down! Stop Gőring your enemies! His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler! Bet you did nazi that coming,”

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Dollars to donuts he generated that entire tweet with AI.

[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 18 points 4 weeks ago

I feel like AI would make something more coherent than that.

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[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

As usual, he's not even funny.

[–] doortodeath@lemmy.world 29 points 4 weeks ago

Basically Homelander-Syndrome?

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 28 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Why are we letting these kinds of people rule us?

[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 12 points 4 weeks ago

They manufacture consent, couple that with the extreme oppression and destruction of the middle class since the nixon administration and neo liberal right wing policies that doubled down on these awful ideas while actively working to subvert and undermine any movement left on meaningful social issues. We didn't let this happen so much as we were conditioned to allow it and be too exhausted just barely surviving that we would not have any energy to actively fight and thwart a blatant class war waged against the working class and poor right in front of our eyes,

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[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I saw someone on Lemmy post that exact comment yesterday. Either the lemming copied it from elsewhere, or musk is in the building.

Elon if you see this: you are a bad person and a bad father.

[–] ef9357@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Elon, if you see this, you’re the poster child for why abortion should be protected.

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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 21 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Why does it say "accused" of doing a nazi salute?

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Corporate news media is terrified of being sued for libel by Musk, even though it was obviously a Nazi salute. So they use words like "seemed" and "appeared" to avoid saying the obvious.

But the problem is, if you want to be taken seriously as a "news" organization, then you have to speak truth to power and that's going to make you a lot of enemies. Companys have legal departments to minimize their risk, but in the case of journalism, that department exists to get you OUT of trouble not to keep you from ever getting into it.

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[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (8 children)

I had a discussion on an industry Slack yesterday with a guy because I called Elon a nazi.

The guy brought immediately the discussion in DM and there I noticed he was wearing a kippa in his profile picture so I asked where was he from...

And he snapped and started to call me a jew hater and telling me that I wanted to bring him to the gas chambers and all the usual bullying.

Turns out the term they are using to make this connection is called Holocaust Trivialization.

I screenshot the whole discussion, blocked him everywhere I could find him (as I am doing with all Israeli people and businesses to be fair) and kept going with my life while he was still spewing insults at me.

This guy is the frontman of the most important conference in my industry.

Keep ready.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 20 points 4 weeks ago

He's literally bragging about how he will never be questioned

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 19 points 4 weeks ago

One of these people is basically Hitler, and the other wishes he was hitler

[–] tlou3please@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I know this isn't the point, but they're not even good jokes? On a technical level. Forget the subject matter for a moment, they're just bad puns that aren't very funny or creative.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Wild how the only people defending Musk making a Hitler salute are a war criminal who is committing genocide and his father, who impregnated his step daughter twice.

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