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UK hopes to be a bridge between Europe and Trump’s US, minister says (www.theguardian.com)

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The UK hopes to act as a bridge between Europe and Donald Trump’s US, the business secretary, Jonathan Reynolds, has said before what could be a crucial week of diplomacy in deciding Ukraine’s future.

With Keir Starmer expected to travel to Paris on Monday for an emergency summit of European leaders, in advance of a possible trip to Washington the following week, Reynolds said the UK had still not given up on persuading the US to allow Ukraine to join Nato.

The US had a reasonable point in asking European nations to contribute more in defence spending towards the protection of Europe, Reynolds told BBC One’s Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg.

“So that is how Europe has to respond,” he said. “I believe we in the UK can play a part, as that bridge between the US and Europe as we adjust to this new era – and it certainly is a new era.

“But I think it would be wrong to portray this as some sort of fundamental breach. There is still a great deal of common ground between the US and its European allies. We must play our part in strengthening that.”

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[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It would be a much better idea to align closely with the EU and to be as detached as possible from the US.

If Trump visits, entertain him with a laser pointer or gossip about old queen Bess. But be aware that he'll try to enlist British support for crimes against humanity and treachery against allies. Being a middleman in such a situation is immoral and potentially suicidal. Under no circumstances should you sing nostalgic refrains of "Down at the Old Blair and Bush." That was a catastrophic shitshow that exposed Blair as the soulless weasel that he is, and caused the deaths of half a million Iraqi civilians. Don't help Trump beat that score.

The only winning strategy is to ride out the storm until the raging psychopath blows a gasket. Not that his VP, the Hamster from Hell, is any better.

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 1 points 5 days ago

be aware that he'll try to enlist British support for crimes against humanity

That ship has sailed. The UK has been arranging intelligence flights out of Cyprus to assist the Israelis in their slaughter in Gaza for the past 16 months. The government put out a D notice about the deployment of the SAS there.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

Just a heads up, the ground on the US side doesn’t appear stable enough to support the foundation.

Sincerely,

A concerned US citizen

[–] towerful@programming.dev 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like:
eat a shit sandwich from the US.
eat a shit sandwich from the EU.

Unless - somehow - the perks from both are enough to outweigh the consequences from both. Which I doubt

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

With Trump in charge in the US, if you think the US and the EU are morally equivalent, I hope those responsible for you are providing you with the supervised care that you need.

[–] UrbonMaximus@feddit.uk 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sheeeesh... What did they say that made you so angry?

[–] towerful@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's not a big deal. People like to rant on the internet when they are frustrated or angry.
I can see how my comment could be interpreted as "EU = US". It's not the sentiment I intended at all.
I meant that the UK is negotiating from a weaker position with both sides

[–] towerful@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago

No, I don't.
And I didn't say that anywhere in my comment.

Morals don't have much to do with trade negotiations.

Trump is going to strong arm the UK, and the UK will have to make concessions. Because the UK wants to put themselves in the middle. Shit sandwich number 1.

The EU is going to strong arm the UK, and the UK will have to make concessions. Because the UK wants to put themselves in the middle. Shit sandwich number 2.

The UK government is negotiating with both parties from a weaker position. And the EU has shown that they won't give the UK concessions during Brexit negotiations.
If the UK get a trade deal with either party, the other party is going to have significantly more leverage. And they will know it.
Which means neither the EU nor the US are going to make any meaningful concessions. And whoever waits the longest gets the most leverage.
Hence, the UK has to make the significant concessions (required to be in the middle) work for itself.
And I bet the concessions are gonna go against what the UK people want.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 5 points 6 days ago

Seems like a recipe for bringing on conniptions.