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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well it sure is a nice change of pace for the French to stand up to Nazis for once.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Plenty of French did. France was divided before the war, fought against Germany, and then had a government of the fascists instilled. If the UK had fallen something similar would've happened

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

"God damnit don't take your mask off while the proles are watching us, you're going to ruin the surprise!" - French Lizard Person

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Isn't it illegal crime in Europe or Germany at least? meanwhile there aare Germany far-right ads showing retard whites doing hiel salutes

Worse, we have Trump and Netyenyu planning, advocating, and executing ethnic cleansing, and Germany, the UK, and Eurpo send their billions in support of it. They've been nazis for long already

[–] radix@lemmy.world 116 points 22 hours ago (7 children)

Combine this with German polls showing a drop in AfD support this month since Vance's meeting with them (https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/germany/), and you have actual European Nazis looking at the Trump administration and collectively saying "whoah, maybe dial it down a bit."

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 54 minutes ago

Fascism is often a pipeline. Not everyone who votes for the far right is fully on board with everything they wish to do quite yet. They're really good at making you think that the people more than a step or two right of you aren't that big of a deal. They see the people waving swastikas as not a big group or a particularly influential one. Similar to how the center left sees the people waving black and red flags. I'd even go so far as to say that on both sides a decent chunk of political propaganda is pointing at the other side's cranks and far [side] members.

The difference is aside from the crux of the ideology and inherent morality contained within that, that the far right has a lot of power over the right, while the left is routinely bending over to centrists of both the left and right. However, people are idiots. If they weren't we wouldn't be in this mess.

In 2017 in Charlottesville North Carolina, the American fascist movement made a bad call. In an attempt to shift the overton window to their acceptance, demonstrate power, and create a unified movement they organized a rally to unite the right. Images of swastikas, fasches, and angry young men in business casual clothing carrying tiki torches and chanting antisemitic slogans alongside a dead young woman who protested against them became the image of the far right for a time. Short attention spans, a global pandemic, the economic crisis caused by that, and sustained propaganda from the right (especially regarding left wing protests against police brutality) led to people slowly stopping thinking about it.

Right now America is a bit too divided and radicalized for this to impact us. But other countries are seeing this and us torpedoing international relationships and making clearly stupid choices and they're asking themselves if they want to be associated with people who support the politics of Adolf Hitler and don't believe in regulating food safety.

[–] needanke@feddit.org 8 points 7 hours ago

Fyi politico is owned by Springer who are partially responsible for the German shift to the (far) right.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 9 points 9 hours ago

"woah dial down the nazi a bit, Mr JD VANCE"- french nazis

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Funny enough, Trump's remarks about Canada are hurting their conservative party as well. I just hope it's enough, y'all better get out and vote

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

America finally making good on its goal of spreading democracy around the world.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago

yea Polliviere was trying to suck trumps knob despite trump wanting to enact tariffs on canada.

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 62 points 22 hours ago
[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I hadn't seen that latest wave of polls.

I know Die Linke saw an uptick, but damn that's wonderful. If the ~~Nazi Party~~ AfD can get down under 15% in the next week and Die Linke could get up over 10%, that would be much appreciated, Germany.

[–] 9blb@feddit.org 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

in the next week

Elections are tomorrow, not next weekend.

[–] needanke@feddit.org 4 points 7 hours ago

Unless you're talking to an Afd voter , then they're next week ;)

[–] QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve heard this several times… what specifically did Vance do that seemed to shake Afd support?

[–] radix@lemmy.world 22 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not actually convinced it was Vance specifically. Their support seemed to grow a bit after the US election gave their movement a bit more legitimacy, but then started back the other way when people saw what it means in action. Vance's visit was timed at roughly the peak, but, snark aside, it's probably more correlation than causation.

The actions of the Trump administration as a whole are a more plausible cause of any slight erosion of support.

[–] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What's happening in the American Reich is inspiring a very strong sense of European patriotism like I've never seen before among common people around me.

It's pretty ironic, yet makes sense, that European unity could be achieved this sad way.

[–] RiceBowl@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago

It is very sad. But I think Europe is really going to have to unify even more as America turns somehow to both isolationism and imperialism.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

He's also pretty unlikable.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

with his many gaffes in june and july, with his fake" paraphelias with dolphins and couches", and then theres the issue of him wearing eyeliner, and crossdress and associating with THIEL, MSM is complicit in trying to bury the last parts, and then theres the issue he may not be entirely straight much like how MSM dont report on lindseys identity.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 45 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They're not disagreeing, they're just worried that it's going too fast. Europe has been slowly going nazi but americans are a step further, and european politicians are worried that it will make people realize the fascisation of their societies.

And pretending to be against what's happening in the US is reassuring the enlightened centrists.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 18 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Is there a running list of US public figures who have publicly performed Nazi salutes?

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

nazi barbie did it first when she was at cpac/or a fox aware show(aka laura ingharam). in the 80s or 90s, she outed a person for being LGBTQ+ by recording them in secret and reporting it.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 2 hours ago

wtf is Nazi barbie

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Whoa thats some dirty dealing. what a asshole.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 26 points 20 hours ago

We could call it a Hit list.

[–] gashead76@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

There should be.

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)