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[–] amadeus84@lemm.ee 20 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That use to call that cooking the books. But what do I know.

[–] Beldarofremulak@discuss.online 2 points 7 hours ago

Now it's "business innovation"

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 16 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe the stupid decision was helping the rich buy EV to replace their 2 year old Lexus, instead of funding mass transit?

Like why is the poor funding this to begin with, during a housing crisis none the less where we need mass transit more than ever.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Because the 2 year old Lexus will put carbon into the air and the EV will not.

Also it's possible there may be some people in the middle class that took advantage of the program. They will be putting less carbon into the air as well.

I get that you want to eat the rich or whatever, but if the world burns down because of global warming, you won't get the chance to do that.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

The EV will put way much carbon into the air than mass transit.

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 13 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Mass transit actually does remove carbon and lasts a century, your Tesla is made using coal.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Are you referring to the use of coal when making steel? You know steel can be made without using coal. Also trains and buses are made using steel, so not sure what your point is.

We can't bulldoze down entire communities and rebuild them so they're optimal mass transit. We can't even keep the carbon tax going in Canada because that's unpopular. It's a struggle to reduce carbon output in a democratic society, but we can't do anything by being uncompromising assholes about it. I'd prefer everyone take transit everywhere too, but that's not going to happen anytime soon, so EVs are a reasonable compromise. The goal is to reduce carbon not enforce our will onto others.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

We can't bulldoze down entire communities and rebuild them so they're optimal mass transit.

Why not? We did exactly that with highways and freeways for cars. I say we run light rail straight through the rich neighborhoods, using eminent domain, and divide them the way they did to poor neighborhoods with their stupid wasteful roads. And I actually like driving.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 82 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Maybe it's as suggested in the article. That the rebate is going to be paused, so Tesla is trying to farm it. You know, for fraud.

But this could also have other motivations behind it.

Like Tesla buying Tesla's in Canada as some sort of "people aren't boycotting Tesla. Infact, there has been an INCREASE in sales in Canada. Clearly Tesla's are trying to be cancelled, and clearly Canada wants to be part of the US" kinda fraud?

As in, trying to bolster Tesla stock. And trying to meddle with another country's politics.
Only the fucking idiot muskrat applied for government funded rebates on all of them?

Cause that's what this is. Fraud.

[–] crowleysnow@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago

This set of fraudulent sales happened in January and before inauguration more importantly, so I doubt this was due to beefing car sales. Most had not called for a boycott at this point, not enough at least to justify this massive scale of car sales.

The sales DID begin immediately the day the canadian government announced the rebate program was running out of money and could only fund a few more weeks. It lasted exactly three days, which were a friday, saturday, and sunday. Most car dealerships in canada are closed on weekends. Tesla registered enough sales at exactly four dealerships that, assuming each was open for 12 hours, they would be selling 100 cars per hour per location. By the time monday rolled around, the government confirmed they had entirely run out of money for their rebate program and closed it early. Car dealerships from around the country that had already paid customers the credit but hadn't yet submitted the sale to the government for rebate then had to eat that cost themselves because they thought they had a couple weeks left.

Tesla doesn't have any dealerships not owned by them so it's not a case of some rogue resaler, and the dates are so damning that i can't see any other motivation for it.

[–] Cassandra3MadScene@lemm.ee 4 points 18 hours ago

So like, buy CAN, get rebate, move cars to US, resale?

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 34 points 1 day ago

Oh look - more fraud. You know, from the fraud guy famous for committing fraud all the time.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 6 points 20 hours ago

Fine then and confiscate the cars used, as evidence.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The names on all the titles are children of Elon Musk.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 41 points 1 day ago

In positive news, the title database has expanded their Unicode coverage.

Fine them and repossess all their assets since they are a flight risk.

The same sort of anything goes market disease that is causing severe GPU scalping. When you break and show that there should be no trust or respect for society, you begin reeking people just obsessed with exploiting the systems. And the US is so very much this now, it is a dying, decaying, heavily diseased superpower becoming authoritarian dictatorship that is only going to spread the sickness around until it is gone.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's going to be a perfectly reasonable explanation for this .. right?

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago

There are reasonable explanations for a small spike in sales before a rebate ends... but that number is pretty large, so yeah it's gotta be investigated.

[–] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Reasonable yes.. legal.. not so much.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

On Jan. 10, as political turmoil embroiled the federal government, Transport Canada informed dealerships that the EV rebate program would run out of money before its scheduled end in March.

“Due to the high uptake, the iZEV Program will be paused in a few weeks,” stated the email sent to dealerships just before noon on the Friday, obtained by the Star.

By Monday, all the money was gone and Transport Canada announced the EV rebate program was “paused.” It shut down the online claims portal for dealers, leaving hundreds without recourse to recoup their money.

“Tesla had a run on the bank,” said Williams. “Somehow, Tesla gamed the system.”

The crux of the matter is when paperwork called an “eligibility assessment” needs to be filed by the dealership.

On the one hand, Transport Canada says dealers “must always submit an eligibility assessment prior to an incentive being paid.”

On the other, it says, “there is no rule” to prevent them from submitting the paperwork in bulk, after the cars have already been delivered.

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[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world -5 points 21 hours ago

Why leave your opinion for your own post when you never even read the first paragraph or highlight points that precede the article. That once again, you fucking posted??? Commend you for not deleting it after comments from users who read it called you out but doesn't that just make you feel like an even bigger dolt?

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Was there some deal? Model Y going up for orders? Surely someone can answer this to at least hint at what happened. How many cars do they normally sell? Is there something in Canada which triggered car sales? Did other manufacturers see similar jump.

Why write such a crappy article with so little info is beyond me. Most people here aren't Canadian, we got fuck all perspective.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago

It's a video, not an article... maybe your browser isn't showing the video for you and you're only seeing the summary of of the video.

Anyway, we're still at the "this is sus" stage. But a news story on network TV will pretty much guarantee there will be an investigation. Then we'll know more about whether Tesla is doing shenanigans.