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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RpPTRcz1no
WATCH THIS IF YOURE NOT SURE WHAT HES BANNING THE DISCUSSION OF
It's terrifying
Fucking shit article.
Different network state to Bilajis? Since that was always opt in afaik.
From the website from the book.
A network state is a highly aligned online community with a capacity for collective action that crowdfunds territory around the world and eventually gains diplomatic recognition from pre-existing states.
Seems like zuck trying to take the Name again like he came up with it, eg Meta.
Networks are opt in, just like meta product's.
Speedrunning to cp2077, starting with the corpo wars
Really I'd wager it's more Snow Crash myself, it's a book that most of these Silicon Valley guys would have grown up with.
Cyberpunk 2077 was just a continuation of Cyberpunk 2020, which came out before Snow Crash.
In reality, I think the tech bros pull from all sorts of media and don't restrict themselves to just one bible.
That's a good point. Snow Crash does lean heavily into the metaverse in a way that is very aligned with Zuckerberg's concept of it. I remember early interviews with some silicon valley guys and when Stephenson was the darling out there l, like with the early Xbox guys or Google Earth.
Maybe Cyberpunk was popular too but just didn't break through to more mainstream news.
I am but a sample size of one, but I've got a copy of CP2020 and not Snow Crash, haha.
I am a Taco Bell man myself. Gotta side with winners, ya know?
I had never heard about the "Network State" concept before, but now I hate it, because Zuckerberg sure as hell loves it
the only reason to ban it is if it’s their plan
https://www.vcinfodocs.com/venture-capital-extremism
Next Reddit will start banning you for upvoting anything about it.
Please share this document far and wide. People need to understand what's going on, to stop it.
Tech fascists see America’s democracy and financial system as collapsing.
That's because you're the one breaking it down
Fuck them and u/Spez. They can ban me for all i care
It's fascist city states that market themselves as tax free libertarian, likely hedonistic. Tech has little (maybe ultra deregulated healthcare) to do with anything other than billionaires who came from tech get to decide who is allowed in. This is a model in Israel and Arab kingdoms with less hedonism, but high slavery levels.
The US is definitely on path to collapse. Current administration is accelerating it. Gifting federal lands to become tax havens is setting it to 11.
Many of these tech bros also talk about an actual solution: Freedom dividends. High tax libertarianism with freedom for all. Power redistribution. Don't compete for jobs we can't do as well as China or robots. Or spend on/promote war. Freedom dividends ends crimes and makes fair labour markets. Fascism and slavery as the "libertarian utopian phoenix from ashes of US" is going to be straight mad max fascism and slavery instead of utopia.
Just double checked, and it's archive both on org and is. That's good.
Pay no attention to the man-child behind the curtain.
This man has a bunker and everything. He's scared shitless and he is ready to hide. Their assets need to be seized and accounts drained
That's not a joke, ALL these dudes have extensive doomsday prep. Secure facilities, staffed and stocked. There's a ton of reporting on it. They're gonna fare a LOT better than we are if shit gets really outta hand. Unless we do something about them before it gets to that point, anyway.
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They are going to get killed by their own militias
If you had billions, wouldn't you have a prepper facility? Even if there were no global warming or political upheaval, it's common sense when you have money like that.
"Hey, want to build a doomsday shelter for .0001% of your net worth?"
"Meh, why not."
They don't necessarily have to see bad times coming is my point.
No? If I ACTUALLY wanted to ride out through some sort of apocalypse, a bunker ain't gonna cut it. I would bankroll and actively participate in a fully self-sustaining off-the-grid community. Rich people always forget the second part, probably because they are psychopaths. Remember that article where they were asking about putting shock collars on their bunker security guys? If they literally just got beers with them once a week, they'd probably shoot all the migrants you ask them to. It's an irony that they consider their time 'too valuable' for that, as it turns out that the one thing you can't buy is a sense of community.
Of course, I would endeavor to not own several billion dollars of stolen property in the first place, but different strokes.
It was explosive collars, like from battle royale
I would too, but I would also be worried about the idea of being sealed in. Concrete is cheap. So is welding and thermite.
You are correct, but also when you look at the aggregate of their behavior and goals (both stated and implied) you have to reach the conclusion that they WANT to use the bunker. Or want a scenario in which it becomes useful.
The scary part is that you might be wrong, they may not even realize they're causing it and are just stuck in a loop of "number go up"
Imagine just letting him be in his bunker, but you park a cement truck on top of the door.
Can we put them in there now?
His bunker on a Hawaiian Island. Dude really wants to be far away from everything when shit pops off.
Yeah because when I think about kicking off world wars, the last locale on my mind is Hawaii
What I'm hearing is that after we overthrow the government and Destroy capitalism we have to dig him out of a bunker in Hawaii and put him on trial
dig him out of a bunker in Hawaii and put him on trial
Just weld the door closed. Problem solved.
Don't forget the air vents
Or, hold a trial, and if convicted, we seal him in his bunker and bury it and cut it off from all outside contact. And depending on the severity of his conviction, plugging up every "air hole" could go along as capital punishment. Give him a very twilight zone ending, he wanted to hide in his bunker, and now he'll spend the rest of his life in it, however long that may be.
Don't plug them up - fart in them.
I've never been to Hawaii, but I'll show up for that 😎
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The native Hawaiians should reclaim their land he stole so he doesn't have a bunker anymore
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Streisand effect: I had never heard of the “network state” until now. Uh, thanks for being such an asshole, Zuck!
There's a whole video that blew up a couple weeks ago about this. Highly recommend you watch it.
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I just found out like a week ago. Look up techno feudalism. Apparently these guys have been talking about it for a long time.
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Corporations can't even run corporations well. That's one of the lessons we should've took from 2008.