Definitely on my list of sisters to boot into something like a VM to test out in the future. If I wasn't so worried about breaking things with rolling release, Tumbleweed would be much higher up on my list.
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OpenSuse is such a mystery to me. In Debian, I know it's community run and there's a thousand developers all over the world and they vote and discuss everything. Ubuntu is corporate and that's easy to understand too. But OpenSuse? They say it's a community distro, but my (uneducated) feeling is that the community is like four Suse employees. Is there actually a community of developers? What is OpenSuse? If someone knows I'd like to know what it's like from the inside.
Here's a page from OpenSuse's website that links to some really interesting interviews with people who contribute to the project:
https://people.opensuse.org/index.html
Quote from interview with Ludwig:
Q: Three words to describe openSUSE? Or make up a proper slogan! A: Lots of fun!
Q: What do you think the future holds for openSUSE? A: The future is unwritten. As long as we have brilliant people we will see new ideas we haven’t thought about before.
Q: If you would have unlimited resources, what would you do with it? A: What kind of resources?
Q: Let’s say you have money to hire a thousand people to work on openSUSE. Who would you hire and what would you let them do? A: Finally fix RPM, printing and KDE? :-)
Q: Star Trek or Star Wars? A: Star Trek.
Q: Torvalds or Stallman? A: Pfft.
Interesting, thank you. I started reading through and realized there are no newer interviews than 8 years ago. And two of the three most recent interviews are of Suse employees. This kind of reinforces my feeling to be honest.
Love openSUSE! Been using tumbleweed with gnome for quite a bit and it's probably the best experience I have had with an operating system so far!
Tried Arch, Debian flavors, Nix, Fedora, and many of the other popular distros and they are all pretty darn good but the lizard Linux takes the cake for me! Highly recommend!
Currently using Fedora, what am I missing out on compared to suse?
YAST. Personally, I think it's ass, but some people insist that it's OpenSUSE's killer software.
Yeast isn't bad but really Opensuse brings a really stable rolling release and the open build service. Leap is very stable and makes a great desktop. Plasma is great. Like most things it isnt for all uses but I've had Tumbleweed for years as my desktop OS and love it.
really stable rolling release
lol no. I did forget about OBS, though. That is actually great about OpenSUSE.
Edit: wait, the OBS also works on other distros so it's not something they're missing out on.
I have OpenSUSE Tumbleweed on a laptop, and recently I encountered a number of annoying bugs, including one being unable to receive updates from the h264 repository, and Plasma 6 annoying bugs.
I definitely wouldn't recommend it anyone unless you like to tinker and fix your system.
This only happened to me once but you just revert to the pre update snapshot in the boot menu and try again in a couple of weeks.
Yeah, it's a shit show. I put up with it for like 2 years until the update to Plasma 6 utterly broke my system and finally decided to switch.
What are you running now?
Fedora, which is also a shit show but not as much. I'll probably put up with it until it actually breaks like I did with OpenSUSE, though.
Linux Mint is technically an Irish based distro, as well.
I came here to ask just this, good to know
IMHO any Linux distribution will be a good change from Windows and Mac if you are trying to divest from US products.
Even if they are not european, they are open source.
The Linux Foundation might be based in California, but I still very much consider it to be Finnish. And Torvalds is, thankfully, very much on the anti-fascist side of the spectrum.
Luckily the Linux Foundation stuff (having to obey US sanctions on Russian companies) affected those specific devs and not really users or anyone else.
A: I will always support SUSE, even if I don't use it myself.
B: Any Linux can be considered an international effort.
C: If you want to avoid American evil corp distros, skip RedHat (IBM) and Oracle. Maybe avoid Ubuntu and Pop!_OS too, but they are not in the same Evil Cyberpunk Megacorp level as IBM and Oracle.
Don't forget Azure Linux. Yes, Microsoft has a Linux distro.
Ubuntu is British though.
I mean sure, our government have been pretty dick to Europeans, but you aren't impacting the US by avoiding it.
Ubuntu is South African. And Mark Shuttleworth is a tiny Elon from what I hear from people who either worked for him or applied to work at Canonical.
I've been using either Ubuntu or Lubuntu for the past 15 years but planning on switching to Debian in the near future.
I know we give Ubuntu and Canonical a hard time but I think we've got a lot to thank them for. They pretty much spearheaded the movement to change the image of Linux being purely for geeks, and I think there's a lot of non-enterprise software support that simply wouldn't be there without them drumming up interest.
Canonical is based in London, and Mark Shuttleworth is a British dual-citizen who has lived in the UK for more than 25 years (since before Ubuntu was founded).
Say what you like about the quality of the man or of the distro, but it is undeniably British.
Mark Shuttleworth is South African, however Canonical is based out of London.
SuSE was a blessing for me in the 1990s when you couldn't just download huge amount of data over the Internet. But I could walk into my local computer store and buy a 8 CD package with two big handbooks for 70 Deutschmarks.
Long story short: Without SuSE I might not be a software developer today, so I'm thankful even though I prefer other distros today. 🦎
In 2005 when I wanted to try out linux for the first time, the only distro that allowed for switching between KDE and Gnome was OpenSUSE. I learned quite a bit. I also learned I wasn't ready to switch over, there were many teething problems then, especially sound oriented ones. I kinda understood why people stuck with one or the other after that experience.
Be aware that Suse, the parent company that donated the basis for opensuse to exist has asked them to change the branding and name for something that doesn't include Suse. So, keep your eyes peeled for that in the mid future.
Been using it for a few months now and it's great. I haven't had any major problems with it. YAST is an awesome tool so I rarely had to use console commands to change/fix stuff. And filesystem snapshots are very well integrated so that one time I did fuck up and the system wouldn't boot (it was entirely my fault) it was very easy to roll back changes.
Yast and the snapshots are exactly what has kept me on it the most. Borked install after zypper dup? No problem! Rollback!
Not as comfortable with command line? Yast it is!
Still confusing sometimes, and sometimes how “locked down” it is makes my tasks a little harder, but solid and stable win at the end of the day!
I'm a long-time OpenSuSE user, so I heartily recommend this! It leans more towards the professional side, so probably not for beginners, IMHO.
I wish I would’ve known that before I made it my permanent distro! It’s the first distro to actually get me to stop trying others and really buckle down and learn. I’ve learned a lot, but still consider myself very much a Linux noob!
I mean, SuSE does have a lot of tools that simplify maintenance tasks, so may be it's not that bad for beginners. Honestly, I've used it for soo oops long (decades...) that I've just got used to the way things work. I'm conscious of that, though, so I don't recommend SuSE for beginners. I don't play games, so I really don't know if it's a good choice.
There are hiccups with games every now and then, but for the most part, they work well enough through Steam and Proton! Getting things to work in Lutris/Heroic on the other hand, have not gone very far on my machine. I'm probably not understanding something, or the myriad options they provide (I barely touch them) causes me to mess something up unintentionally.
It's a solid distro though, stable as can be, so that's the real reason I choose to stick with it! If I have enough of a headache (running a KVM for tiny11 so that I can sideload my YouTube app on my iPhone, running a game, or running some save editor/program installer that isn't playing nicely with the VM), I just move back over to my separate tiny11 SSD and do it there, and if I can, move it to the openSUSE SSD.
I don't require a lot, but then at the same time, it feels like I'm such a niche person for the operating system (Linux) sometimes. :')
currently daily-driving their Aeon flavour. it may be the best Linux-for-beginners i've ever seen. the installer has no options at all and just overwrites the disk with a preloaded partition which means installation takes literally five minutes. it's auto-updating, immutable, snapshots itself so it can roll back when something breaks, and basically only allows Flatpaks. on first boot you get an empty desktop with browser, app store, notes app, and calculator, and those are literally the only user applications on the machine. very refreshing.
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Yeah ill be switching off of Fedora onto OpenSUSE as ive heard good things and Fedora is headed by Redhat, which is headed by IBM. I liked Fedora but its not anythung im super attached to so looking forward to learning OpenSUSE.
I love opensuse if nothing else for the great mascot and the very talented artists who do their wallpapers, logos, and splashes. Also their open source font is what I daily drive on my machines! It is very nice!
Sadly they have a small team I think compared to other major distros. Their microOS team I think is just 2 or 3 people.
I have both Kalpa and bazzite and for me, bazzite just works better in almost every case and their encryption scheme and rollback method fits my needs better. But Kalpa is very usable if you don't game. Otherwise some hours of work getting steam flatpak working correctly.
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