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Interest in Canada joining the EU has increased amid US tensions, with 44% of Canadians supporting the idea. While the EU acknowledges shared values, Canada's geographic distance and historical precedent present challenges for membership.

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[–] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 73 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If someone had told me ten years ago that in 2025 the UK would have long left the EU and we were talking about a membership of Canada, I would have declared them bewildered. LOL.

[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago

I think the UK will have to rejoin now. We're too vulnerable.

[–] BookSnob@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 days ago

As a Canadian, I support the idea of trade agreements with the EU, especially ones that could benefit our Indigenous communities. I support allyship with the EU. But I don’t want to be a part of the EU. We can’t ditch Mexico.

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 28 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I can't imagine Canada joining like a normal EU member country would. But I do hope Canada enters into special cooperation and trade agreements if possible.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 28 points 6 days ago (3 children)
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[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

CETA has been around for ages. Now if only taxes weren't applied on imported goods, we'd be set.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, all for it.

We can thank Stephen Harper and Pierre Polievre for ignoring Europe for so long when we should have been there for you guys, helping you separate from Putin's oil and gas.

Hopefully Carney will remedy that situation, and we can all get rid of the despotic sycophants.

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[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I think full membership is very unlikely, but maybe Canada can join the EU Customs Union or even the Schengen Area at some point in the future.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

EU/Canadian dual citizen here: full membership doesn't make sense. Deeper integration to the point of having a customs union would probably be quite reasonable. I'm not sure about free movement of people however because the two parties have different attitudes to immigration. Canada cherishes immigration and cultural diversity, and considers it to be a defining national characteristic. Multiculturalism is quite literally baked in our constitution. European attitudes on the other hand, let's just say, I don't miss them. Beyond that, I don't think Canada needs the Euro (and the stability pact straightjacket) any more than it needs the USD.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I enjoy the "Canada can into EU?" memes, they're fun. It's also really nice that in this period of insanity we can help each other.

That said, yeah. A trade agreement that drops basically all friction, bilateral visa agreements that make travel and business easier & cooperation on military purchases would be the ideal scenario. There's a ton of things the EU and Canada can help each other with without Canada becoming a member.

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[–] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Europe doesn't even want to ratify CETA and Canada would have to ditch USMCA to join the customs union. Makes no economic sense, never gonna happen.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Holy fuck, yes!!

Canada, come join us!

And Greenland should get to be a sovereign state as part of the EU as well - if they want to

That would be just fucking awesome all around! :⁠-⁠D

[–] CAVOK@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Well, Greenland was an EU member, but they left. Can't remember when, but it was before brexit, so the UK wasn't the only, or even the first, to leave. Possibly the last though, as the appetite for leaving seems to have dropped significantly.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 days ago

As the current world situation looks very different, I think the EU is a much more attractive option - at least I hope so

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[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Canada actually shares a land border with the EU.
There are so many regulatory hurdles, especially in farming and agriculture.

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 3 points 6 days ago

Canada actually shares a land border with the EU.

Brazil has a stronger claim if that was is all that counted.

Georgia has no such claim but is a great candidate for EU membership.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

And Canada has its own hurdles within its own regions to overcome too.
Not sure how that works, but it's their federation system or something.

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Australia and new zeland also I want to see trump cry

[–] aleq@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

I can't imagine it and my gut feeling is that it's a terrible idea for the same reason as having the US be our military was a terrible idea. Geolocation matters, and Canadas location means it has interests that are fundamentally different from the EU. A major thing is that it doesn't have Russia breathing down its neck.

It also feels like a slippery slope where we'll eventually have Mexico and, god forbid, the US joining as well. Then suddenly the will of European countries is overshadowed by these North American giants.

That said, Canada is cool and joining forces against the US is good.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago

If you are trying to say that Canada doesn't have Russia breathing down its neck, then you are wrong. Tensions over the Arctic have been high for years.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago

We're only one border removed via Alaska (which might as well be Russia if things keep going this way). And with the arctic ice melting, Russian warships & subs could directly threaten our north and west coasts.

[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago

Canada very much has Russia breathing down its neck.

Look at a globe focused on the North Pole, and you will see that Russia, Canada, and Scandanavia all basically form a ring framing the Arctic ocean. Russia asserting itself in the Arctic is a major issue for us, and the situation could very well deteriorate as climate change intensifies.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Canada isn't really a giant in any sense of the word. I mean it is one of the world's top economies, but so are Britain, France and Germany. Mexico is economically even smaller. The US should absolutely not be allowed to join, though, yeah.

[–] phcorcoran@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Well it is gigantic in terms of territory I would say; not that this is super relevant here however

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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Trump could actually be pushing the world into a united Earth. Just have to wait till he dies, then we join with a real leader. Then Star Trek baby!

A United Earth? Or an Orwellian tristate world?

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I would fully welcome the Canadians and Canadiens into the EU. It means St. Pierre and Miquelon would not have a border anymore. Win win!!!

[–] Disgruntled@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Can’t we use our close proximity to Saint Pierre and Miquelon as a foot in the door?

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Can't wait for Brazil to join the EU on that basis.

[–] Disgruntled@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 days ago

"Wait, it's all the European Union?"

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[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] shirro@aussie.zone 4 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Nah, Eurovision is enough. We are happy to be everyones mates and have access to their markets. Our focus is Asian markets and it hurts our interests enough that some in the region view us as a remnant of European colonialism without us leaning into that. We aren't colonial and we aren't European. We need to find our own identity. Unlike Canada we aren't heavily dependent on exports to the US and desperate to find a replacement. Our equivalent would be a trade war with China and we have already proved we can cope with that.

I am more concerned about the US alliance. If they can shit on Ukraine and by extension Europe all our strategic planning and defence investments are worthless overnight as we can't rely on parts, or support let alone US forces showing up.

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