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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

As someone in and from the US, good. Private companies are far to prevalent in public institutions all over the world. Something as basic and fundamental as word processing should not be controlled by a small select few huge international companies.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

No America's club

[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 5 hours ago (6 children)

We should actually use an opensource, decentralized and private alternative instead of relying on another centralized service

See Fileverse for example: https://fileverse.io/

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Why distributed? Having your data tied to a blockchain seems unnecessarily complicated, and it essentially puts your data at risk if the bulk of the community moves to the next hot thing.

We really need to decouple storage from the apps themselves. Whether you use distributed storage, local storage, or something commercially backed like S3 should be a choice separate from the app you use to view and edit your data.

I self-host Collabora (online version of LibreOffice; OnlyOffice is another option), and my data lives on my NAS, but it could just as easily live on S3 or some distributed data store.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 minutes ago (1 children)

I self-host Collabora (online version of LibreOffice; OnlyOffice is another option), and my data lives on my NAS, but it could just as easily live on S3 or some distributed data store.

Oh this is interesting. Any pitfalls you could talk about before I go popping this up myself?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 minutes ago

It's pretty easy if you use NextCloud with the AIO image, but if you're doing anything fancier than that, strap in because there aren't many decent tutorials.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 43 minutes ago)

(Not op) Its distrubuted so you don't lose your content if something happens to one location.

Just browsing the landing page, it looks like the blockchain part offers proof of ownership and strict access controls without having to use a centralized service, which is needed in some form if it's distrubuted.

I imagine but haven't seen that it might handle payments for having things be distrubuted as well, which would have meant having to include credit cards otherwise which would complicate things like micro payments to any given person hosting your content.

Edit: also this is the kind of thing that should use an S3 compatible API so you don't get locked in as you said. It'd let you move the data between providers effortlessly.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 12 points 2 hours ago

Checked out the site on mobile, and it was unresponsive to any of my clicks.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Well this software is more intended for administrative staff working for the government, so I don't think that decentralisation is their goal here.

[–] Slax@sh.itjust.works 29 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I agree but having two major countries using this might be a good move for more efforts from nations. I know Canada still uses all M$FT platforms and recently moved to EXO.

Purpose built projects like this would be easy for public servants to adopt and adapt their workflow.

[–] ByGourou@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I wish we did with more open source and local software. My school in Canada has some agreement with Microsoft so we have to use everything from them.
The school mail used for all accounts is hosted by outlook
The databases are all azure
The 2fa app on our phone to boot the school computer has to be Microsoft (even gave me shit because I am root...)
Teams
We had a whole course for a year on how to use word.

It's a public school. Obviously with this most students will move to the USA for higher pay, we are literally subsidizing the USA education.

[–] Slax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

The school board here uses Google, and Microsoft... I emailed their board and the province's privacy commissionaire asking why. I grew up with an agenda, and that shit worked better than using a website and email for JK/SK aged kids.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

What do folks think of cryptpad? ~~Thinking of~~ more like planning on switching from proton after CEO bullshit

[–] anon593839@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

I personally really like Cryptpad. I haven't heard of Fileverse, so I'll check it out. Cryptpad is the closest thing I've found to a drop-in Google Suite replacement.

[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I'll look into that one too, I didn't know about it

Which bullshit are you talking about? I might have missed it and my search didn't bring much on it

edit: I think i found it: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40123727/17360792

[–] JOMusic@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah agreed - anything not FOSS is just setting up another bad situation waiting to happen

[–] notastatist@feddit.org 8 points 4 hours ago

It says in one of the first paragraphs, that its open-source

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

So FramaSoft is not a thing ?? It's French

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 20 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

Pretty good project, but is it the future to have mainly web apps?

For offline editing there's already LibreOffice

[–] RichardDegenne@lemm.ee 40 points 7 hours ago

Bro has been sleeping under a rock for the past 10 years.

[–] SaraTonin@lemm.ee 33 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It’s definitely been the direction of travel for the last several years. Not because the products are better, but because it’s easier to develop for just the browser than for Mac, Windows, and Linux.

[–] coolmojo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

it’s easier to develop for just the browser than for Mac, Windows, and Linux.

They also work on android and IOS. You are also not dependent on the different toolkits. Also it is so much more performant.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

They also work on android and IOS.

I can imagine it'll be a 160 MB app that loads the website in a webview, like it usually is

[–] azalty@jlai.lu 9 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

A bit of both I guess

Web apps have the advantage of not requiring admin permission and being accessible from pretty much everywhere, and they are often less intensive I believe

And I guess cloud storage of documents makes it even better

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

no office software requires admin eighter unless you want to install it for all users

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago

I guess I don't mind if I can self host the server. If I can't I have no interest in touching it.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 95 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

Just checked the part about self-hosting. While it's probably possible to handle things with a less heavy approach, their only "easy to use" example right now is to have a full-blown kubernetes cluster at hand or run locally in the source directory. That's a bit much.

[–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 25 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

In the README there's also instructions for Docker Compose, although it's quite the compose file, with SIXTEEN containers defined. Not something I'd want to self-host.

[–] Tramort@programming.dev 2 points 8 hours ago

Please develop this self hosted version using sandstorm

It makes hosting a breeze with one click installation

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