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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world to c/196@lemmy.world
 

Edit: The admins have told me if I don't say this was an accident then they will remove the post.

It's is verifiably an accident. It is also extremely convenient for the people she threatened.

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[–] qaz@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This seems to be misinformation. The family confirmed she died due to epilepsy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Aber#Death

Please refrain from sharing easily debunkable conspiracy theories. OP will need to add a clear disclaimer within 24h or this post will be removed.

[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Oh, how convenient!

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[–] edg@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

You should still remove it

[–] Ghost_Pepper@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

You are still spreading conspiracy theories

[–] Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

"Debunked stupid conspiracy theory" -yeah but we live in a world where many previously unthinkable and unbelievable things have actually happened. We live in a world where it's 100% plausible that difficult people could be "taken care of" by the current reĝime.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It's only ok to be wrong if you're a Republican. If you're a Democrat you have to be right 100% of the time. This brings you down to 99.99%, how dare you.

[–] Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

I apologize and resign immediately.

[–] a9cx34udP4ZZ0@lemmy.world 109 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Can we not pretend to be as dumb as the flat-earth tumpers?

Her family came out and stated she suffered from epileptic seizures, and believed that was cause of death. There's literally nothing worse than the family having closure, and being continually harassed about the death of a loved one because of psychotic internet conspiracy theorists. There is no basement in this pizza parlor.

[–] IceyPea@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yea it's a known thing that people with epilepsy who live alone are at higher risk of 'spontaneous' death. If they have a seizure that prevents them from taking their anti-convulsant medication things can get bad fast.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sudden death in epilepsy is one of my biggest fears. My seizures are well controlled, but there's still a chance my brain will just blue screen anyway

It’s a fear of mine as well. My partner has epilepsy, and works from home. There’s a non-zero chance that she could seize while I’m at work, and nobody will notice until I come home 8 hours later.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Edit: The admins have told me if I don’t say this was an accident then they will remove the post.

It’s is verifiably an accident. It is also extremely convenient for the people she threatened.

Dude, that's a weak-ass response. Do yourself a favor and delete this.

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[–] gamer@lemm.ee 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is there a Lemmy feature to block unfounded conspiracy theories? Shit like this will get me to stop using this site, for the same reason I wouldn't use Facebook even if the privacy issues were solved.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We like to use our brain as the filter here.

Twitter screenshots don't count as quality journalism.

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We like to use our brain as the filter here.

OP has 916 upvotes vs 57 downvotes

🤔

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People were making this claim back when the news first broke and since then the top search result including her name is "Jessica Aber cause of death". The cause is officially Epileptic Seizure, and her family has chimed in to say:

"It is with tremendous sorrow that we acknowledge the sudden passing of our beloved Jessica (Jess) Aber, who died in her sleep on Saturday, March 22. Jess suffered from epilepsy and epileptic seizures for many years and on Tuesday, March 25, Alexandria (Virginia) Police said in a statement that they believe her death was the result of natural causes.”

So while it is possible that she was somehow drugged with some rare exotic neurotoxin that isn't tested for, or she drank some suspicious glowing tea many years ago, it's very very unlikely.

[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

SUDEP (sudden unexpected death in epilepsy) is quite rare, so this explanation of "natural causes" makes the situation a lot more suspicious.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

SUDEP is rare, but that’s only because other people tend to be around during seizures. She was alone all night, and epileptics are also more likely to seize in their sleep; Something like 75% of all seizures start while the person is asleep.

I agree that making it look natural is much easier when the person is epileptic; The list of medications that interact with (or directly counteract) epilepsy meds is a mile long. However, that doesn’t mean we should immediately default to “it was a hit that used one of those drugs.”

[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

SUDEP is rare, but that’s only because other people tend to be around during seizures.

What are you basing this statement on? (the causality part)

However, that doesn’t mean we should immediately default to “it was a hit that used one of those drugs.”

Of course. Occam's razor still applies here. But knowing how resistant ME/MDs (depending on state) to put "epilepsy" as the cause of death, the "it was seizures" explanation remains unusual. BTW, I ended up looking into it, so the chief ME's report is still pending. So it's not like anybody has final conclusions and everybody's speculating here.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (17 children)

She suffered epilepsy for years leading up to her death in her sleep. SUDEP is assigned when no other cause of death is found, but in the strictest sense this was neither sudden or unexpected.

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[–] Sillyglow@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dying from epilepsy is only rare in circumstance that a person isn’t close by. Chances of Dying from epilepsy is quite scarey in that there is a possibility on every single epileptic seizure that a person could die.

People with epilepsy have a chance of dying if they are awake and no one is around fast enough to do anything.

Almost lost a neighbour this way.

if they are asleep there is less a chance someone might come by. Because everyone else is asleep and unless someone is in bed with you they wouldn’t know to wake up and do something to help.

[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

97% of seizures spontaneously stop in less than 5minutes. People on medication ( that they actually take), seizures tend to be shorter and in the setting of partial onset epilepsy (which is usually the case in adults) they are also more focal or shorter at breakthrough. So yeah, technically any seizure can kill you, but in reality they very rarely do. Also, the family of this person was comfortable having her alone in her home suggesting this hasn’t been a regular occurrence etc.

Of course, this doesn’t mean anything but again, it is unusual.

[–] Sillyglow@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The experience shouldn't offend the data. The data comes from the experience. If you keep discounting occurances it will seem rare and unusual. that's perpetuating a fallacy.

A close friend of mine has a son who hadn't had seizures in a few years and they thought his seizures were being managed and that they found the right medication and treatment. Then suddenly he had a grand mal but luckily while they were out someone else was around. Took them all by surprise. he had a cardiac arrest and everything.

This does count.

It becomes less rare when you stop belittling experiences about it. It should absolutely be taken more seriously.

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[–] samuelazers@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

while i also believe this is nothing more than a coincidence,

i have to admit that, if she were truly deleted, her family would be instructed to repeat a favorable version of events.

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[–] axh@lemmy.world 99 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're at war

No. You already lost.

Decided to surrender to a few spies who sold you cheap propaganda.

Now it's resistance time.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The war against the Russian mob state goes on for others, regardless of how tired the unfathomably rich Americans are. The rest of the world doesn't get to take a day off because America decided to tap out.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We should renember that the MAGA Nazis don't mind killing people, or even let other nations kill people.

In their first term, they allowed Saudi Arabia to brutally murder and dismember exiled Saudi dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi, because they didnt want to derail their $10 billion arms deal with the Saudi goverment.

We knew theSaudis intended to do this, and they were informed that there would be no negative repercussions from the MAGA administration. So we didnt warn this dissident journalist, writing material that was 100% protected by the Constitution, living legally in America, working for an American newspaper, that his life was in danger, and let him go to his gruesome death.

They let a foreign nation murder someone under American protection. Does anyone really belive they wouldn't allow the Russians to do it?

BTW, they also let a loyal MAGA Moron get his head blown off during their phony staged "assassination attempt." They don't even protect their own.

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Aber was found dead in Alexandria, Virginia, on March 22, 2025, at age 43.[11] A family friend said that her death was "believed to be the result of a longstanding medical issue",[12][13] which was later revealed to be epilepsy.[14] Authorities did not initially release an official cause of death.[2][15][16] Four days later, the Alexandria Police Department said in a statement that Aber likely died of natural causes, but that they would wait for the final ruling of the chief medical examiner.

i mean, that's pretty concrete.

Assuming this wiki info checks out. I would be inclined to believe it. Unfortunate timing i suppose, but it could happen at any time.

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[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 148 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 98 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I'm like 99% sure the US government is capable of discreetly poisoning someone to have an epileptic seizure

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (9 children)

If you think GRU doesn’t have activated operatives operating on US soil, you’re dream’in.

Seizures aka “you know we did it but you can’t prove it” is Vladdy’s trademark.

The US fingerprint is more like the 2 Boing whistleblowers.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be fair - most assassinations by Putin have a much more obvious tie.

She didn't fall out of a window, she didn't get exposed to Novichok, and it doesn't sound like polonium.

That being said, still could have been assassination but by other Russian mobsters.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Sadly, it could have been the stress of losing her career and possible threats in her future that exacerbated her condition.

Or really it could have just been shitty luck too.

Let’s stay focused on the real conspiracies with Trump, musk, vote manipulation (look at mail in ballot rejections), and Putin’s digital army garbage.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (21 children)

Evidently the family had said she had a history, so they would have had to be playing a long game. I suppose they could have been opportunistic about her condition to make a plausible death, but a plausible death to someone no longer involved in any inconvenient cases doesn't help any such cases nor does it "send a message".

Sometimes things just happen.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The CIA had a heart attack gun decades ago.

Making someone's cause of death an epileptic attack, either for real or on paper, would be absolutely trivial in 2025.

You’re not wrong. People with epilepsy have a really hard time getting medicated for other things, because the list of drug interactions for epilepsy meds is a mile long. Even common things like decongestants can trigger a seizure.

[–] Djinn_Indigo@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You mean the one that shot bullets made of ice? That wasn't real, actually. The CIA made it up to impress/intimidate the Russians.

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[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is how they create fear to resist. Resist harder!

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We lost back in November when ninety million people helped MAGA sign us up for this.

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Consider sophisticated assassination tools like the Bulgarian umbrella. Then realize that was invented 50 years ago. Imagine what the Russian spooks have access to now.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We've been at war since 2022 at the latest.

and since late 2024, Russia has been winning that war. Not on the ground mind you, but in regulatory capture of the United States, and takeover of the Information space. (Information war)

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