Buy European

Did qobuz by now implement a way to check their catalogue without agreeing to an abo?

I won't switch to a company that obfuscates their offer behind a paywall.

I would also add Mirlo (https://mirlo.space/pages/about) Even if US based they are a coop (the company is managed by its members), and "allows for direct and ongoing support of artists. It’s different from other crowdfunding platforms because it:

• is rooted in mutual aid and is stewared by a worker co-op, which intends to exit-to-community as a multi-stakeholder cooperative;
• It’s open source and is working together with other similar products to build towards a standard-based and sustainable ecosystem."

Bandcamp is US owned, but still worth mentioning I think because of their commitment to high revenue sharing, about 80-82% goes directly to the artists. They have custom playlists, and offer high quality formats as well.

If the goal is a quality product and an ethical approach to supporting artists I'm not dead set on only using European alternatives

I don't get it, why doesn't Torrents, the largest of the group, not simply eat all the other music services?

For some reason listed all the way in the corner, I used to love Bandcamp but they are US based sadly. Always thought of them as the good guys but they are owned by Epic now so who cares. The French Qobuz should be a good alternative for buying DRM free albums, haven't tried them yet though.

People give Spotify shit for paying artists awfully, does anyone know if this is better for Qobuz? I feel like revenue is always going to turn out bad when you're not buying any albums. €15 per month for 2x access is just not that much over a few hundred listens.

Also like someone pointed out Soundcloud is German. Worth mentioning again. This doesn't seem like a very carefully curated list, so I expect there to be a lot more options.

For Quboz, there's also an option to buy albums or single tracks. You can just download the DRM-free high-res audio files.

Spotify are not a “big tech incumbent”?

Qobuz also sells DRM free files in both high resolution and lossy file formats. https://help.qobuz.com/en/articles/10167-what-are-the-different-audio-formats-available-for-download

I really wanted to like Qobuz but the recommendations are terrible. Like I'd be listening to deep house and it would suggest Johnny Cash.

I switched to Qobuz today. I used to use Tidal because I wanted to be able to get the best possible quality from a streaming service, and I wasn't happy with the way Spotify pays the artists. But after Trump got elected and turned the world upside down, I kicked every US services out of my portfolio.

Qobuz feels quiet clunky, and the desktop application lacks some basic functionalitys, but overall I think it's a good alternative.

I'm sorry but I've downloaded Symphony and have abandoned music streaming altogether.

Deezer has hi-res audio

Isn't Soundcloud German?

Qobuz is unavailable in Poland. So much for being European.

Honestly another circle with “pays artists less shit than others” or “pays small artists at least partially” would be good. Fuck Spotify.

I can also recommend soundiiz for transferring between them (its in that useful resources note in bottom right corner). I paid $5 for 1 month but was a few years ago

Listing yt music first?

I don't know anyone irl that uses it, Spotify and Apple Music are definitely larger

Deezwr gives bonuses to bigger artists it's really unfair