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Donald Trump warned the UK must accept chlorinated US chicken imports if it wants relief from new 10% tariffs on British exports.

The U.K. has long reaffirmed its commitment to maintaining high food standards, with polling showing 80% of Britons oppose a ch imports.

Critics argue chlorinated chicken stems from poorer production hygiene, with studies showing high bacteria rates in US chicken.

Farming advocates warn a US trade deal with lower standards would be "devastating for British farming."

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[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

who the FUCK would buy chicken from the US? if you want chicken you buy it from japan where you can eat it raw if you wanted to.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 15 points 9 hours ago

The obnoxious thing is that most US chicken isn't even chlorine washed. We could easily just try to make a deal on air chilled chicken, which is actually a high quality American product, but that's not what Trump is interested in. He doesn't actually care about trade or American farmers - he just wants to make people shovel shit, because to him, a "deal" is all about forced compliance rather than mutual respect and compromise.

[–] TheInfinityMachine@programming.dev 125 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Studies have shown that washing food in chlorine doesn't actually work as US authorities think. It can put the bacteria into a survival state called VBNC, viable but non-culturable. This means labs cannot culture the bacteria to test for its presence, but it is present and can still cause illness. It hides the problem, allowing for lower safety practices in favor of productivity and profit. Here is one such study: https://journals.asm.org/doi/full/10.1128/mbio.00540-18

[–] frazw@lemmy.world 24 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

All you need to do to not need the chlorine wash is to not treat the animals so badly that they shit all over each other due to lack of space. Improve their welfare improve the product, but no. Dollars come first.

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[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 33 points 15 hours ago

Sounds like the american way. Hide the problem in the name of profits rather than finding a real solution.

Note: am american, and hate this mindset

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 47 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It hides the problem

Seems to be working as intended

[–] AllOutOfBubbleGum@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It hides the problem or else it gets the hose again

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Maybe it likes the hose. Don't kink shame!

[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 41 points 18 hours ago

trumpy: "you get the chemical chicken or we tax our people. what's your choice?"

art.of.the.deal

[–] Ziggurat@jlai.lu 40 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

How is it even legal for the US to wash chicken with Chlorine ? Sounds like so ridiculous.

[–] El_Scapacabra@lemm.ee 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Companies pay loads of money to politicians to have them change the health and safety laws so they can make even more money. It's a time-honored American tradition.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

This one time, some dude bought his own president for just over $250 million

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

In the same country they bleach little kids assholes to cure autism and other things. So it's pretty fitting i would say

[–] FunnyUsername@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Oh. You have a sad read ahead of you....

[–] Beldarofremulak@discuss.online 3 points 16 hours ago

"Business Innovation"

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 57 points 20 hours ago (13 children)

Imagine how fucking grand it would have been if this cunt had died from covid.

[–] Appleseuss@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Or the shooter had sights on his rifle...

I’m still not convinced it wasn’t a fully orchestrated false flag. There’s too much about the incident and it’s aftermath that’s deeply suspicious.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 41 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Nah. Don't do it. Call for a referendum to get back into the EU. I'm sure in these trying times they could speed run you guys back in.

[–] Anarch157a@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don't see it happening anytime soon. To rejoin, they woukd have to accept all the new rules, one of them is adopting the Euro as currency. I'm not sure the English voters would be willing to abandon the Pound. Scottish, Welsh an Irish, maybe.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps after people start starving? Although the British are know for stoic acceptance of suffering....hmmm....maybe.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

Can't wait for my 1€ coins with Big Ben on it, and 2€ coins with beans on toast !

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Not that I wouldn't welcome UK back (under equal conditions to all new-joiners, of course), speed-running is not something EU is capable of. Nor is UK. They will not like having to accept the same deal everyone else has to when they had a lot of exceptions for everything. It will take ages before some kind of agreement is reached.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Not to mention, there's at least one member state that will obstruct anything beneficial because the current dictator benefits from the chaos.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Just tell them they won't be getting those sweet Euros from the EU, that worked every time so far.

[–] Pondis@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'd rather go out of my way to avoid buying anything from the US, which is exactly what I have started doing.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 3 points 15 hours ago

Especially food related stuff. Just look at the people who consume it.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 28 points 19 hours ago

I'm an American and I don't want to buy our chicken either.

[–] StopTouchingYourPhone@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Probably trying to make a buck off blighted fetid fowl.

[T]he U.S. discards nearly 60 million tons—or 120 billion pounds—of food annually, amounting to about 40% of the national food supply. This equates to 325 pounds of waste per person, or the equivalent of each American throwing away 975 average-sized apples every year. Alarmingly, food waste is the largest component of municipal solid waste in landfills, making up 22% of the total. The environmental cost is staggering, with food waste generating methane emissions that significantly contribute to climate change. - forbes link from jan '25

In case anyone was wondering, signs of avian flu at the market: bloody legs; slimy, filmy meat.

[–] RidgeDweller@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

After reading the article, I'm left wondering how US food waste breaks down between originating from individual households vs grocery retailers, commercial retail food/restaurants and ag suppliers.

It's been a while, but I remember reading about how there's little incentive (maybe it's even prohibited?) for retailers to send reject and expiring food to food banks instead of throwing it out. I feel like this should be more of a concern considering the demand to food banks is probably going to increase rapidly while funding and donations will likely decrease with the current economic turmoil.

I suspect we could curb a significant amount of food waste by creating a pathway to divert food waste instead of disposing it outright. Of course, such pathway would need to meet food safety standards while providing a clear regulatory framework to address liability and logistical aspects to make it more profitable to divert vs dispose.

Anyone from outside of the shithole have any input on how this works in your country?

[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm in Canada and recently our food banks (at least in my area) have been getting huge donations of all the unsold American produce.

[–] RidgeDweller@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

That's awesome! Glad to hear that silver lining.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 17 points 20 hours ago

Yuck. Even if I ignored economy, Trump and everything political, US food is pure shit compared to European food.

[–] Sdes01@lemmy.ca 8 points 18 hours ago

Trump trying to expand the US sewer to the world.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

EDIT: To clarify, I'm supporting the idea that the UK ignore Trump's ultimatum. Like "Oh no, you're saying we have to listen to your demands or be tarriffed? Anyways..."

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 19 hours ago

If you accept, there's no guarantee he won't change the deal later. He's a chud.

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