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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 34 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Who is going to hold the executive branch accountable? If they ignore the courts there is no one to hold them accountable.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

If the Marshall Service does not enforce contempt, it is possible for the courts to appoint others to enforce for them if they are willing to do so. It would be unprecedented, but well within the bounds of what the law states

The rule begins in section (a) by instructing that, as a general matter, process “must be served by a United States marshal or deputy marshal or by a person specially appointed for that purpose.”

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Thus, by its plain terms, Rule 4.1 contemplates that the court may appoint individuals other than the marshals to enforce civil contempt orders.

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Even a rogue marshal’s service, in other words, is not an insurmountable obstacle to courts enforcing the rule of law. If courts have the courage, the legal tools are there.

https://www.democracydocket.com/opinion/if-the-marshals-go-rogue-courts-have-other-ways-to-enforce-their-orders/

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It’s up to the man on the street.

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[–] Gelcube69@reddthat.com 33 points 1 week ago (11 children)

People are understandably pessimistic but Trump is playing too fast and stupid. He's juggling about a dozen knives right now. It's not sustainable.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 20 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I feel like there's a weird number of people here who are rooting against the boring legalese solution to this problem.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 17 points 1 week ago

I don't think it's weird - we're used to seeing the rich and powerful get away with everything.

But it is boring. And time consuming. Something that the judges admit themselves.

We also do need that same energy, because even if the courts deputize and enforce contempt, there will be resistance to it.

[–] You_are_dust@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

I agree with what some others have said. I'm not rooting against it. I'm doubting that anything will actually come of it. I would absolutely love for something to happen.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago

People aren't rooting against it, only realizing that it's not gonna work. America is too far gone for boring legalese to matter.

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Half the people are mad they haven't done it faster and the other half think it's pointless, pretty sure 100% are going to complain no matter what

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anyone threatened with any jail time is going to get pardoned by Trump.

[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Civil contempt is not pardonable apparently. So someone super low level is getting thrown under the bus

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

Can't wait to see how the DOGE boys react to finding out they could spend the rest of their lives in jail.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

“Put it all on Bigballs69420, my man”

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[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Courts are not going to help you. They haven't for a long time. Wake up.

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[–] meldroc@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Sounds good to me. About the only way to make it stick is to arrest Trump and hold him in a cage where he belongs, but that has its own complications...

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