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Some of these guys are very, very dangerous and will push us towards civil war before they give up power.
Remember that violence is what they want so they have an excuse to crack down and use martial law, etc.
The Courts must uphold the rule of law despite these threats. This is (supposed to be) America. We are not free unless everyone has due process.
MAGA will just say, “tHoUghTs AnD PrAyErS”. But if a Dem said that, MAGA will just say, “domestic terrorism!”
They will gaslight this country to its death.
Being able to remember is so surreal these days. I remember when Republicans attacked my country and tried to kill elected leaders. I remember when the domestic terrorists were taken in like sons and daughters. I remember CPAC declaring "We are all domestic terrorists."
And now they're saying terrorists don't deserve due process.
It was funny watching all the conservative cucks dogpile on the comments section of the MSNBC youtube video that broke the story over the weekend, and every one of them was putting their ignorance of the constitution on full display - more proof that they don't actually understand anything about how government works and should not be taken seriously or given any kind of real power or authority.
“We live in a society where foreign alien terrorists have unlimited free legal representation,” Stephen Miller posted.
Which society is this, and how can I travel to it?
Stephen Miller's quote is of course quite hyperbolic but in fact yes, the US constitution says even foreign alien terrorists are guaranteed legal representation in the American criminal justice system. It's amazing how many people either don't understand this or pretend not to understand it, because it's one of the tenets that made America so great to begin with, at least on paper
New Zealand? It's called the "Citizen's Advice Bureau" but it's free for anyone. Doesn't go as far as full representation, but it's something.
Also our conservative government tried to defund it. Fuckers.
Wait until they look at their 401K, if they have one.
It's now a 401.
Get fucked MAGA traitors.
"Suspend habeas corpus" is making me pretty upset
Yeah it feels like that's getting glossed over but that's a really fucking big deal.
For those unaware, habeas corpus (from Medieval Latin, lit. 'you should have the body', basically 'bring us this guy') is a legal procedure that exists in basically every legitimate government anywhere, not just American, which effectively states that if you've been wrongly imprisoned then your lawyer can call to have you moved from prison to a courtroom to determine whether your detainment is lawful. Basically saying you can't just be thrown in a dungeon to be forgotten about because someone can force the court to retrieve you and give you a court date. I'm not a legal expert so read it for yourself to get a good understanding.
At any rate, someone recommending suspending habeas corpus is never up to any good, it is always 100% bad without exception, always. Even saying those three words together should be instant political suicide and should be grounds for disbarment. Successfully suspending habeas corpus with your rubber stamp and signature should be subject to execution. Any judge who accepts that it is suspended is unfit for their position.
Agreed... that's some Gestapo shit
“We live in a society where foreign alien terrorists have unlimited free legal representation,” Stephen Miller posted.
Did I stutter, bitch?
Fantastic series.
The scene is from HBO's "John Adams", is that correct? Man, what a show! It made me put John Adams among top 5 American presidents. And the role is Paul Giamatti's finest! I have also changed my view of him as one of the best actors! Had the show been released few years later in late 00's to early 10's during the peak of TV dramas, Paul Giamatti would be celebrated as one of the greatest along with Brian Cranston!
I have also changed my view of him as one of the best actors!
Same, this series made me a huge fan of Giamatti, and I try to watch everything he's in now. He's so good.
As an outsider looking in.. aren't they always in full meltdown mode?
“We live in a society where foreign alien terrorists have unlimited free legal representation,” Stephen Miller posted.
Yes, that's exactly the point.
I believe I saw someone say on Tumblr that if you enjoy having rights then you should advocate the strongest for criminals enjoying rights as well, because otherwise, the Government can always just take your rights away by labelling you a criminal.
Or, as has been trendy lately, a Salvadoran gang member.
Yes, Thats what I've been saying.
You only have as many rights as an accused criminal does.
and if we can remove due process from someone who is accused of being a criminal, and sent them to a central american torture prison with no judge, jury, hearing, or anything... Then anyone can be sent to a central american torture prison, because all it will take is a baseless accusation to strip you of all your supposedly inalienable rights.
We live in a society where criminals have the right to a free public defender 😱
Woah, so criminals have the right to fair representation, a fair trial, and in some cases a court of ones peers? :0
Naurr, who cares about constitutionally protected rights like due process when you're a dictator. Those freedoms just get in the way of ~~turning America into a christofascist dystopia~~ making America great again
A public defender who's overworked and probably not even that ~~good~~ effective at his job. You must have a weak case to be concerned about a free lawyer.
Edit: Calling public defenders "not good" is a bit low but they are overworked and under-supported, therefore I rephrased to say they're ineffective.
not even that good at his job
There's no need to shit on public defenders to make your point.
Fair criticism. Edited my post.
Dude. You're a badass.
Stephen Miller is a whiny little bitch. Literally watch any interview, and tell me I’m wrong. 😂 What a cruel and stupid little man.
Considering how many people they arrest and claim to be terrorists that's a good thing.
Break a window on a Tesla? Terrorist!
Speak Spanish, believe it or not, also terrorist.
Tattoo, also terrorist.
Go to University and study anything but STEM or Economics or not be a white christian male? Straight to gitmo.
Buy a Chicago Bulls hat at a thrift store and have brown skin?
Well, you all know the drill by now.
MAGA supporter shooting at a school: tHouGhtsS aNd PrAyErS.
Dem boycotted a Tesla: MAGA says, “DOMESTIC TERRORISM!”
Yes I am sure the criminal who already ignores courts amd suffers no tangible consequences for it will obey a ruling he does not like.
The DOJ could technically put an arrest warrant on his subordinates that are not complying with an order.
The trump owned DOJ? Ping me when that happens. I'll hold my breath.
Judges cam also deputize people outside the DOJ and law enforcement to carry out the Court's orders.
Aaaannny second now...
I have a higher chance of being a millionaire than that happening
And he can pardon them for all crimes and get back to what they were doing. No man, Trump is closer to ending the rule of law than anyone understands.... We have to do the right stuff at the right time or were doing fuhrer 2 electric boogaloo by summer
The decision has cast the country’s entire legal system as Thanos in the eyes of Trump officials and associated mouthpieces—against whom they have assembled to avenge this perceived national betrayal.
For most people, having the entire legal system as your opponent might give you pause, and an "are we the bad guys?" moment. Not so for Trump cultists.
“We live in a society where foreign alien terrorists have unlimited free legal representation,” Stephen Miller posted.
From the US Constitution:
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
Trump, Miller, and the rest of he administration loathe the Constitution and the very foundations of the American ideal.
They seek to destroy all of it and replace it with a far right oligarchical dictatorship. They want an unchecked executive where the primary qualification of its officers is loyalty to the leader. Where due process is merely a suggestion and doesn't apply to whomever they decide. Where money spent on research, food safety, education, government oversight, and public welfare is corruption and fraud, but money spent on private enterprise that enriches the executive officers is not. And, unfortunately, they've seen more success in that than I would have thought possible, particularly in such a brief time.
I’m sure they would be upset at this if they could read.