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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Wow, relive the early days of really fucking terrible LCD displays for just under $2000.

What a time to be alive...

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Why, for the love of all the gods, do people keep saying and writing "LCD display".

Tell me what the "D" in "LCD" means!

What does the "D" mean, hmmm!?

[–] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

it means peDantic

[–] BodilessGaze@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

I'll remember that the next time I enter my PIN number at an ATM machine.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The same as the M in ATM machine and N in PIN number, V in HIV virus and C in UPC code!
Oh, the dreaded RAS syndrome!.

I'm off to read some DC comics.

[–] poddus@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I will be reporting this to the American Association Against Acronym Abuse!

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 1 points 2 days ago

Also known as: The Fonz

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Ok, so what's up with that LC display.

This kind of redundancy creates semantic resilience, thats why we take the type name out of acronyms.

Instead, when designing acronyms leave the type name out of it.

[–] teodorista@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

You really need to learn about RAS syndrome.

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[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For a work machine with a lot of text and little graphics, this is great. Less eye strain for long periods.

[–] iamkindasomeone@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

In theory yes. But after seeing a review yesterday I am fully disappointed. Even text looks like shit on this monitor.

[–] dzso@lemmy.world 75 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If I could get a laptop with a screen like this, I could finally sit outside in a park and code like nature intended.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Also a lap desk. And a coffee thermos. And headphones. Second screen.
God, I'm too spoiled for nature, ain't I

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[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I'd totally buy this if I had fuck you money.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

That... would actually be pretty dope

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 98 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Waaaaaaaaay too expensive, but I'd love it if big eink displays became a thing, even with shit refresh rates, mostly because I want some for displaying Home Assistant dashboards.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

I bought a trmnl and it's pricey but works pretty good. I've mostly been using a few out-of-the-box plugins for it.

There is a selfhosted/offline version of the server you can run for it, so it can be 'offline' in theory. I keep meaning to mess with it more but haven't put the time aside.

[–] yaroto98@lemmy.org 9 points 3 days ago

Or to hang on a home server rack displaying dashboards.

[–] qupada@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

There's this range of Philips signage displays in up to 32" (~$1800 USD): https://www.ppds.com/display-solutions/digital-signage/philips-tableaux

They even run Android, so should be able to install the Home Assistant app natively. Being intended as a signage solution, there's also PoE (although it is 45W 802.3bt class5), and even room for four 18650 batteries.

Notably though, they use the newer E-Ink "Spectra" (16 bit, 65,536 colour) panel which offers its full 2560x1600 resolution in both greyscale and colour, not the "Kaleido" one (12 bit, 4096 colour) of this Boox monitor that only has half of its 3200x1800 resolution in colour (Boox recommend using 1400x1050).

I don't know which of the two panels offers better refresh rates, however.

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[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I’m thinking at those prices this is probably intended for corporations that absolutely need a readable display in bright sunlight areas but don’t really care about refresh rate or color depth.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 17 points 3 days ago

I can see how this would be very attractive to a writer.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 10 points 3 days ago

Not necessarily just corporations, but certainly text-based workflows. I can see this being great if your day job is writing code, working on spreadsheets, editing documents, etc. In those use cases, framerate hardly matters. Would be great for reducing eye strain.

[–] koncertejo@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm really keen on one of these displays eventually, as I can set aside the issues with refresh rate and colour accuracy, but the price needs to drop way down. It needs to be competitive with regular LCD monitors.

I look at terminals all day for work, this would make it so much more comfortable.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Might not need anything except economies of scale. But getting that is the problem.

Tablet sized eink displays found a niche that couldn't quite be displaced by smartphones and regular tablets. That let them have a market for getting costs down.

There would need to be a similarly wide use case to get the price down on larger eink displays.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

economies of scale

And competition. AFAIK, E Ink Corporation holds all the patents (there's 47 pages of them), so they can ask for as much as they want for the tech.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago (5 children)

How many seconds per frame does it get?

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 28 points 3 days ago

Not sure yet, we're still waiting for the first frame to finish.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 21 points 3 days ago (6 children)

If the answer matters then your use case isn’t this monitor’s use case. If you spend all day in Excel, or an IDE, something like that, then it could be awesome for eye strain reduction.

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[–] crimsonpoodle@pawb.social 6 points 3 days ago

I think it says 23Hz or something

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Maybe in 30 years when the patents expire.

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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What is the refresh time? They carefully avoid mentioning that. There's a comparable Pimoroni monitor whose refresh takes 14 seconds so I'd call it a static display rather than a computer monitor.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The article mentions another display with a 33 Hz refresh rate. But be aware that there would be significant ghosting even just scrolling a page of text, more so than even a measly 33 Hz refresh rate would lead you to believe.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm happy with say 3 hz, fast enough to not be too annoying when flipping pages while reading. It's fine to not be good for video. What I really want is a 16 inch or so e-reader though.

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 21 points 3 days ago
[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I remember when OLED was that extensive...

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I remember a 42" plasma TV that cost $12,000 at Best Buy.

[–] czardestructo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Plus $1000 a year electric bill

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[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago

Maybe it’d be useful as a low powered interactive kiosk display? Price needs to come down tremendously before this thing becomes competitive.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

The US takes tariffs on the good stuff? Looks like there will be more stuff for us in the future.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Obligatory Linus video for a similar, but not identical, monitor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVUxxn53mBE

This Dasung model is mentioned at the bottom of the article. TL;DW: These things have the exact list of drawbacks you think they do including miserable contrast, color accuracy so bad it's fallen off the bottom of the chart, a low refresh rate, and quite a bit of ghosting. So it's awful, but surprisingly not as awful as you'd think if your primary experience is an e-reader form the first couple of generations. Linus being Linus he does attempt to game on it and gets... a result... but this is a display technology with niche applications and still best suited to displaying mostly static content.

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[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Ah yes just in time for the trade war! Better get yours now

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Aw yeah! I imagine it's like 2 fps. Great for gaming.

[–] simop_jo@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

Its not meant for gaming. People who display a lot of text (eg. coders) could use less strain in their eyes if they're doing it for a long time. Definitely not at that price though

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