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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 14 points 56 minutes ago

Trees don’t attract VC funding the way some dumb new invention does.

I guess this could be useful in places trees don’t fit but I think there are other simpler solutions.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 8 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

Trees don’t create shareholder profits

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 3 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

useless pests they are. who cares that they provide free shade, free oxygen, free beauty for all to enjoy. Fucking commies.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 39 minutes ago

I agree trees are commies. Must be why Trump is going to clear cut several hundred million acres of the last remaining old growth forests …because they’re full of commie trees

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 2 points 12 minutes ago

What happens when one of these breaks and drains into the sewer system? Algae blooms cause noxious odors and would proliferate quickly in the nitrogen-rich environment of human waste water, potentially building up as clogs in the sewer lines. And if the system drains into a natural body of water, the algae can have devastating toxic effects on the natural wildlife. If it doesn't drain and instead gets recycled, then the water treatment process becomes much more difficult and expensive.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 2 points 41 minutes ago

"Why do you say this is stupid? You're so negative." Run of the mill conformist toxic optimist tech bro dildo

[–] bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

I guess the "problem" with trees is obvious: it takes decades for them to produce the desired cooling effect in urban areas. You plant a dozen young trees today, you can begin to reap the cooldown 10 years later at best. Also, they need a lot if water, and many of them just don't make it - urban surroundings are just much hotter and more stressful (smog, salt...) then standing with other trees in a forest. I fail to see though how these artificial "trees" provide any kind of benefit at all.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 57 minutes ago

The amount of water required is trivial compared to most other water uses. Especially if correct species are selected.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 points 33 minutes ago

I think the problem is putting them in those dumb tanks where a tree would be, as if to say "do this instead". The principle would be fine if they got a bit more creative with it and played to its strengths, e.g. if you make a train platform out of it, or the railings of an overpass, or the external wall panels of buildings etc.

Ofc OOP didn't actually provide a source so we've no idea what the creators were actually thinking...

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 58 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

This is missing out on likely the most important part of trees in urban areas. Shade. They give you a cooler place to stand or walk through.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 4 points 35 minutes ago

My condo complex is easily 5 degrees cooler than the rest of my city cause we’re covered in trees. It’s always noticeable when you leave the complex and go across the road

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 41 points 4 hours ago

No standing or sitting allowed. Resume consumerism!

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 28 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I recently learned that there's a group dedicated to planting 1000 trees in the city of Trenton, NJ, USA. I'm really glad to see a city working to bring back a little nature!

[–] bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

In Vienna, Austria, Europe, every tree removed has to be replaced with a new as per regulation

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

In Toronto Canada if you plant trees you get arrested

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 hour ago

The problem even with that is that an old, standing tree and a young one are very different in their ability to provide the services we seek from them.

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 hours ago

Same in Oslo

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 hours ago

trees take a loooooong time to grow

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

This just makes me think it’s an aquarium that needs to be cleaned.

[–] bratorange@feddit.org 77 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (10 children)

Like I always think that people don’t get one thing about trees in a city. There purpose is is not about co2. The co2 reduction of city trees is neglectable. The reason you need them in a city is temperature regulation, shade, air quality, mood, the local eco system and maybe solidifying unsealed ground. Putting these tanks in a city is laughably inefficient w.r.t. co2 conversion if you compare this to any effort to do this in instustrial capacity ( which is is also still laughably inefficient)

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[–] notthebees@reddthat.com 26 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

A few reasons: Trees need a lot of space and the space underneath a sidewalk isn't enough for long term life. They can die after like 30 years? This is tree dependent and location dependent.

Tree roots can destroy sidewalks making it harder for people to go over them. (Think people in wheel chairs)

Liability in terms of damage (have you seen trees after a storm?)

[–] MightBeFluffy@pawb.social 17 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Sounds like we need to remove the need for sidewalks. Rip up all the roads in the city and replace them with green space. Problem solved

[–] stray@pawb.social 22 points 4 hours ago

I disagree. Pavement is valuable to pedestrians, cyclists, emergency and service vehicles, and the disabled. While it's important to preserve nature as much as possible, some urbanisation is also a good thing. That said, I'm not sure algae tanks would be necessary in areas where huge tracts of land aren't dedicated to parking. I can't really think of where my city would benefit from them.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 hours ago

Yes to ripping up roads for greenspace, not to removing sidewalks too.

Make the citu green and walkable, and you solve so many problems in one go

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Upkeep costs. Oh, wait.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 100 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (12 children)

While I don't want to spoil the joke (but I will) and I hate techno-optimist solutions that displace actual solutions for our biosphere as much as the next person: supposedly, Belgrade is such a dense concrete hell that trees aren't viable solution (at least in the short term).

There is some rumbling that liquid trees are not the solution to the real problems caused by large-scale deforestation, nor does it reduce erosion or enrich the soil. However, much of this wrath is misplaced as Liquid tree designers say that it was not made as a replacement for trees but was designed to work in areas where growing trees would be non-viable. Initiatives like Trillion Trees are laudable, but there is something to be said for the true utility of this tiny bioreactor. The fact that they can capture useful amounts of carbon dioxide from day one is another benefit for them. Such bioreactors are expected to become widespread in urban areas around the world as the planet battles rising carbon levels in the atmosphere.

Source

[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Also, trees are surprisingly difficult to keep alive if they were artificially introduced to a location. Turns out they don't thrive in a concrete hellscape super well.

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 hours ago

They seem to be focusing on CO2. Trees in cities are going to capture a negligible amount of CO2 and for relatively high cost versus doing things outside a city. The point of trees in cities is shade and looking nice (good for mental health). Liquid trees solve neither of those.

[–] tostiman@sh.itjust.works 41 points 7 hours ago

They can thrive in tap water and can withstand temperature extremes.

So maybe they can be used in regions that are too hot for trees, like desert cities

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[–] termaxima@programming.dev 34 points 7 hours ago

We can have both trees and this ! Let’s replace the stupid ad spots on bus stops with these 😮

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