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Germany's domestic intelligence agency last week classified the largest opposition party, the AfD, as "confirmed right-wing extremist." This has intensified debates over whether or not to ban the party.

On Friday, the Alternative for Germany (AfD) was classified as "confirmed right-wing extremist" by Germany's domestic intelligence agency, the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV).

Now, there has been a first fallout: two AfD politicians and parliamentarians are not allowed to accompany Hesse's Minister for European affairs, Manfred Pentz, on a trip to Serbia and Croatia. Pentz explained that he could not expect international partners "to sit down at the same table with representatives of a party that has been confirmed as right-wing extremist."

Further measures also threaten the radical right-wing party: several federal states want to examine whether being a civil servant, including judges, police officers, teachers, or soldiers, is still compatible with being a member of the AfD.

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[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

There's only one political party in German history who banned other political parties. Just because you call a different party a fascist, doesn't mean you get a pass to act like a fascist.

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 6 points 6 hours ago

Blue is the new brown.

And the afd gaining power just a symptom of the younger generation getting targeted by the camouflaged propaganda media.

Yea, we all are from all sudes always, though the younger gens are far more susceptible.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 27 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Banning the AfD is just not enough - right-wing extremism doesn't disappear if you ban the party. We need policies that improve the populations state of living to avoid them falling for another populist party.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 17 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's a start though. As long as they can't legally get elected, they can't change the system from the inside. The NSDAP was a legally elected party.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 hours ago

Sure, but it's a bandaid, not a long-term solution.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -5 points 10 hours ago

The other way around, banning AfD is a very harmful thing to do.

The good thing to do would be to put its important figures in jail for mafia activity, which would also lead to many people outside of AfD, be a non-conditional improvement for the society and kill that party very quickly.

There is that mafia activity and it will be found if it's looked for.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

Germanst will ban every group protesting against genocide before they ban the people doing a Nazi salute.

[–] Gudl@feddit.org 83 points 1 day ago

Ban the shit out of these fascists mfers.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 119 points 1 day ago (18 children)

That's what we needed to do with MAGA.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 6 points 16 hours ago

Fuck no!

They're self-identifying.

We needed to execute Trump for treason, then everyone with a Maga had should have been tracked for life as potential security threats.

[–] VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com 73 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Trump should serve as a warning. Get the fascists before they get you. These far-right parties will all be looking to emulate Trump's actions if they get a sniff of power.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s what we needed to do with the Republican Party. They’re one and the same at this point.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

While I don't disagree with you in principle, the reality of having only 1 political party after this also doesn't look particularly good.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 20 hours ago

Ideally if it happened the dems would just become the right wing party and other actually left wing parties would appear. But with how screwed up the election system is in America we'd just end up in same place 😭

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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (6 children)

2025: AfD is banned

2026: New party is forned, Germans for an Alternative, or Deutsch für eine Alternative (DfA)

🙃

(You know what this means: The only good nazi is a dead one)

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

If they are banned they cant form a party or join another party again, this is by law

[–] lowleekun@ani.social 7 points 13 hours ago

It still sucks up a lot of their money and disables funding through taxes for a time

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 45 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Any follow up organization is also banned. So if a new organization forms it will be much easier to see if they are a follow up organization and dissolve it right away.

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[–] joostjakob@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Exactly this happened with the extreme right in Flanders (Belgium). They were convicted for racism and promptly refounded themselves under a new name.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

Ineffectual regulation doesn't work. There needs to be more resolve.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] joostjakob@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Still being kept out of government roles, still being dangerously big. Last municipal election they got an absolute majority in one town and got included in one or two coalitions. Last Flemish elections, they were tied as the biggest party with about 25%. While the other big party is also right wing Flemish nationalist btw

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

The problem I see is people accepting to form coalitions with them. That is centrist (read: milder fascist) behavior.

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