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Country Statements of support Threshold Percentage Signatures required
Austria 10162 13395 75.86% 3233
Belgium 13911 14805 93.96% 894
Bulgaria 4597 11985 38.36% 7388
Croatia 4163 8460 49.21% 4297
Cyprus 565 4230 13.36% 3665
Czechia 7421 14805 50.12% 7384
Denmark 12032 9870 121.90% 0
Estonia 3035 4935 61.50% 1900
Finland 15319 9870 155.21% 0
France 49153 55695 88.25% 6542
Germany 98063 67680 144.89% 0
Greece 5018 14805 33.89% 9787
Hungary 9902 14805 66.88% 4903
Ireland 10353 9165 112.96% 0
Italy 24712 53580 46.12% 28868
Latvia 2679 5640 47.50% 2961
Lithuania 5123 7755 66.06% 2632
Luxembourg 946 4230 22.36% 3284
Malta 533 4230 12.60% 3697
Netherlands 26374 20445 129.00% 0
Poland 53599 36660 146.21% 0
Portugal 8402 14805 56.75% 6403
Romania 12377 23265 53.20% 10888
Slovakia 4987 9870 50.53% 4883
Slovenia 2473 5640 43.85% 3167
Spain 36391 41595 87.49% 5204
Sweden 19849 14805 134.07% 0

Just under 3000-4000 people are required per country in Lithuania, Latvia, Malta and Luxembourg. Come on now... that's a small town and in some places even just a village. Are there really that few gamers in those countries?

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[โ€“] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago)

Those thresholds are irrelevant because they've been crossed in seven countries already, the important bit is getting another 560k votes from anywhere (in the EU).

The actual hurdle is those 1m votes, any initiative that is not completely lopsided will take the per-country hurdles with ease, as you can tell by this initiative having achieved that while not yet having half of the votes it needs. In fact taking all the thresholds together you wouldn't reach 1m votes but ~0.5m, that is by design.

That's not to say that it'd be a bad idea to do pushes in certain countries, particularly large ones which are less hooked into English media than the usual suspects. By population: France, Italy, Spain, Romania, Belgium is covered by Netherlands+France, Czechia, Portugal, Greece, that's all >=10m member states lagging behind. No point in going after Sweden or the Netherlands people there are already in the loop, and Poland seems to have rallied itself.

[โ€“] lurch@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 hours ago

that's a small town

Luxembourg is kind of a small town tho ๐Ÿคฃ

Okay, I'll see myself out ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

[โ€“] dwindling7373@feddit.it 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

My good Sir do you know what is Malta?

[โ€“] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Apparently an island of useless chuds who can't sign a petition.

[โ€“] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 1 points 42 minutes ago

And they ruined my friend's stomach! He could eat a lot before his vacation there.

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 19 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

seven countries and one million total votes. it's not even close on the second one, needs like 550k more.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 10 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Sure, but look at what's going on in Lithuania. They can't get 2k people to sign the petition? Wth? Are there no Lithuanian gamers?

[โ€“] Commiunism@beehaw.org 1 points 17 minutes ago

Lithuanian here who signed the petition like a year or so ago.

There's a decent chunk of Lithuanian gamers, but social medias and spaces that they inhabit are primarily in Lithuanian language such as Facebook, Lithuanian gaming groups on Discord/TikTok and things like that. Rarely there are some odd Lithuanians like me who venture out to the English speaking web to sites such as Reddit, but there's no guarantee the initiative will be found or if the person will care enough to sign it.

Granted, take what I say with a spoonful of salt as I don't actively seek out or look for Lithuanian digital spaces at all, this is based on my experience with friends and acquaintances.

[โ€“] Skua@kbin.earth 11 points 3 hours ago

I wonder if it's a language issue? Lithuanian is only really spoken in Lithuania, which is quite a small country, and most Lithuanians also don't speak another EU language (the most common second language by a wide margin is Russian). It might be that nobody has made a successful effort to publicise the campaign in a language that most Lithuanians know. The disclaimer here is that I don't speak Lithuanian and cannot check

[โ€“] axh@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

For Luxembourg almost 80% are missing. Let's try to motivate bigger countries that are close to the threshold.

Looking at you France and Spain, just a little more! Belgium, you are doing great, just a 1000 more please.

[โ€“] DmMacniel@feddit.org 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

too few gamers that care or know about this.

[โ€“] Voyajer@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Or have fallen for misinfo about it

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 11 points 3 hours ago

Pirate Software - that cunt

[โ€“] brot@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

How does it work? Does every country need to pass the threshold? Only a certain amount of countries?

[โ€“] Voyajer@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

7 countries and 1 million total signatures

[โ€“] brot@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago