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It's not hard to find videos of self-driving Teslas wilding in bus lanes. Check the videos out, then consider:

"There was an interesting side-note in Tesla’s last earnings call, where they explained the main challenge of releasing Full-Self Driving (supervised!) in China was a quirk of Chinese roads: the bus-only lanes.

Well, jeez, we have bus-only lanes here in Chicago, too. Like many other American metropolises… including Austin TX, where Tesla plans to rollout unsupervised autonomous vehicles in a matter of weeks..."

It's one of those regional differences to driving that make a generalizable self-driving platform an exceedingly tough technical nut to crack... unless you're willing to just plain ignore the local rules.

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[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 45 points 1 month ago (32 children)

It can't stop when running directly at a wall but you expect it to handle special lanes?

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[–] tinsuke@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Can AI driven systems handle anything? Not reliably, no.

There, fixed it for ya.

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

„Not reliably, no“ sums up Tesla pretty well.

[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

Teslas ai is based off of its drivers in crowdsourced data, they are assholes who break the law. Yesla "self driving" will NEVER be safe.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's actually extremely straightforward to mark lanes as "bus-only" when you map out roads, but that's assuming you're not being micromanaged by a moronic egomaniac.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It’s actually extremely straightforward to mark lanes as “bus-only” when you map out roads

Yeah... until they change. And municipalities are not known for thoroughly documenting their changes, nor companies keeping their info up to date even if those changes are provided.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 5 points 1 month ago

If the road is marked as bus only, surely it’s still bus only? That’s how it works here at least, road signs etc. are applicable until removed. Doesn’t matter if it’s still there because government forgot to remove something. You obey the signs because they keep the roads safe.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

Sooooo .... You people don't have signs? Because my car can read those.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

Tesla's don't have self driving software.

Stop calling things names that don't reflect reality. A Tesla couldn't get itself out of a parking lot, let alone drive itself across the US, despite all the lies that Elmo has been telling

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 10 points 1 month ago

Rest of the worlds solution: remove Tesla

American solution : remove bus lanes

[–] Kurious84@eviltoast.org 8 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't set foot on anything associated with musk after he sold out the country to the Russians to enrich himself m. The man could not spend his money in. A million lifetimes and what does he do to us? Grabs more.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

First video was from somewhere around Toronto, Canada (my guess is Mississauga). Some places have very unclear signage of when bus lanes are active, when they're not, disappearing in and out of existence sometimes, but that was a clear red lane that combined with lane data the Tesla's camera based navigation system should have been equipped enough to handle it...

Sucks for the driver letting Tesla net him a fine and demerit points.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sucks for the driver letting Tesla net him a fine and demerit points.

Nah, they are also responsible for not correcting the situation whan the defective self driving feature put them in a bus lane. Same as if they let their cruise control rear end another car.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I agree with you that often the signage/lane marking suck and it takes a bit to figure it out. But me as a human, I’ll remember the next time I travel that route. The Tesla continues to have zero prior knowledge every time.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

oh hello betterridge's law of headlines

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Can Kay Write a Decent Headline?"

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

Oh thank you :D

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